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Old January 11th, 2017, 12:59 PM   #1
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gas nut removal

i'm trying to disassemble my M1A to put on a walnut hand guard.

already stumped with trying to get the gas nut loose.

got all the right tools and watched tonyben's video.

he makes it look easy.

I can't get the blasted thing to budge! almost feels like it's cross threaded but i'm sure it's not.

it's been soaked in penetrating oil and P-B Blaster for a few hours. should I wait overnight, should I follow the don't force it - get a bigger hammer doctrine?.

any advice?

thanks.


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Old January 11th, 2017, 01:05 PM   #2
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Apply some heat just don't catch any of the PB blaster on fire.
Never force things that have threads.
Are you going the right direction? I hate to ask that but some people do go the wrong direction trying to take things off.
Try tapping on it with a hammer to break the carbon loose I have had to do that on an M1A I bought used.
I guess its gas system had never been cleaned.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 01:14 PM   #3
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Hand guard should pop free

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Old January 11th, 2017, 01:48 PM   #4
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The gas plug is usually easy to remove. If it's new from Springfield, they may have had a gorilla put it on. Or if it hadn't been cleaned in a while the plug tends to freeze itself on with carbon. Put anti sieze on it once you get it off.

What are you using for leverage to man it off?


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i'm trying to disassemble my M1A to put on a

Mmwalnut hand guard.

already stumped with trying to get the gas nut loose.

got all the right tools and watched tonyben's video.

he makes it look easy.

I can't get the blasted thing to budge! almost feels like it's cross threaded but i'm sure it's not.

it's been soaked in penetrating oil and P-B Blaster for a few hours. should I wait overnight, should I follow the don't force it - get a bigger hammer doctrine?.

any advice?

thanks.


GMG

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Old January 11th, 2017, 01:50 PM   #5
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I don't imagine that it's too carboned up.

I bought it new and it only has 300 rounds through it.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 01:57 PM   #6
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I don't imagine that it's too carboned up.

I bought it new and it only has 300 rounds through it.
If it's a Springfield, there has been reports of very tight.
Use a Sadlak wrench to counter your removal force so you don't torque your barrel.
Use a. 1/4,socket wrench, or a 3/8 wrench if you need more leverage.
You can apply heat as well.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 02:11 PM   #7
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Sir:
I have a brand new springfield that I could not get that nut off also and I just had to put the gas port wrench on it and my wife stood on the assembly while I put a little pipe on the 3/4" wrench and broke it. That was the second part that I could not break off my rifle without breaking the rules and getting tough with it. Just be careful not to move your barrel - mark it before you begin - good luck.
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Old January 11th, 2017, 02:11 PM   #8
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yeah, it's a springfield loaded.

I've tried a 3/8" 1/4" drive socket and a 3/8" box wrench in conjunction with a Battle Arms gas cylinder lock wrench.

no luck yet. think i'll just walk away for now and let it set overnight.

please keep the suggestions coming.

I don't want to botch this...

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Old January 11th, 2017, 02:14 PM   #9
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Rąther than removing the gas plug try this.

Remove action and barrel from stock.

Once the stock is off, you will be able to see the clip that holds the handguard on.

Use a small punch inserted in one of the clip holes to release the clip from the groove.

Pry carefully and it's off.

When I first got my 2012 Scout, the gas plug and the castle nut had both been tightened by the SAI 250 pound gorilla.

Had to put it in a vise to get them apart the first time.

Just remember, the castle nut is held from turning with a set screw that must be backed out before trying to loosen the nut.

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I bought a new std in 2009. I tried everything and ended up taking it to gunsmith to remove the gas plug. I think Chuck Norris put it on.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 02:28 PM   #11
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wiz, he has to get the gas plug off sooner or later, closer to sooner after 300 rounds fired.

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Rąther than removing the gas plug try this.

Remove action and barrel from stock.

Once the stock is off, you will be able to see the clip that holds the handguard on.

Use a small punch inserted in one of the clip holes to release the clip from the groove.

Pry carefully and it's off.

When I first got my 2012 Scout, the gas plug and the castle nut had both been tightened by the SAI 250 pound gorilla.

Had to put it in a vise to get them apart the first time.

Just remember, the castle nut is held from turning with a set screw that must be backed out before trying to loosen the nut.

Thanks from Buelligan
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wiz, he has to get the gas plug off sooner or later, closer to sooner after 300 rounds fired.
Yes sir, I realize that it will be necessary at some point.

Just wanted to point out that there is an easier way to change out the handguard.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 02:58 PM   #13
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This is the SAI employee that puts the plugs on -
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Old January 11th, 2017, 03:03 PM   #14
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I put a wrench on mine. Then lay it on floor.. and stomp the wrench like it was a cockroach..While holding my rifle with the other foot..

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Old January 11th, 2017, 03:06 PM   #15
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Had a polytech that I could not budge, soaked it in Kroil and finally got it off. Funny thing though, after unscrewing it, the kroil had hardly penetrated the threads. Guess I just used undo force

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