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Old January 11th, 2017, 03:11 PM   #16
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Old January 11th, 2017, 03:17 PM   #17
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Help me understand.

Once you have the action out it should be a simple removal of handguard.

No need to remove gas plug to take that off.

If you think you should remove gas plug and it is tight, get a pair of pliers, grip gas cylinder around padding, with leather strip or something similar, and break it loose. These are not sissy rifles.

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This is the SAI employee that puts the plugs on -
maybe but we are smarter and tougher than a gorilla.

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maybe but we are smarter and tougher than a gorilla.
Penetrating oils won't penetrate very well because these are tight threads designed to hold in gas under high pressure. That's one of the reasons to use anti sieze every time you install the plug.

Heat will loosen it up, think auto mechanic.
Or leverage , or find another gorilla to take it off. You'll get it done. Left is loose as others have said

Guys, even though he doesn't need to take the plug off to achieve the original goal on the handguard, it's a more important issue to be addressed before it no longer functions due to carbon build up in the gas system.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 03:46 PM   #20
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Gas cylinder wrench on cylinder 3/8 wrench on plug. Use one against the other to double force, pull and push at the time is what I'm trying to say.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 03:47 PM   #21
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Mine wasnt easy to get off the first time but it wasn't ( gorilla) tight I guess.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 04:08 PM   #22
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So you've fired 300 rds and never cleaned the gas system .....?? And you expected a result other than what you are experiencing? Had you cleaned it this would not have occurred.

Remove the action from the stock and clamp the gas cylinder in a padded jaw vise. Place the correct wrench on the GAS CYLINDER PLUG and apply sufficient force to remove it. That is how it is done.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 04:40 PM   #23
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I don't imagine that it's too carboned up.

I bought it new and it only has 300 rounds through it.
Trust me, it is.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 04:53 PM   #24
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I shot a new one 66 times before joining this forum I believe it was Capona who told me to take the plug out and apply anti seize I didn't have any but I did what he said and applied a small amount of oil with a brush to the threads only. The second time I removed it after 140 more rounds it was filthy with carbon, but it came out without struggle.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 04:58 PM   #25
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Use a small propane "plumbers" torch, or similar, to heat the gas cylinder just behind the gas lock. That is where the threads are. Once warm, you should have no trouble loosening the plug. Just make sure you are holding the rifle with a leather glove or oven mitt.

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What will that do it the finish? Just asking?

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Old January 11th, 2017, 05:07 PM   #27
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Mine was on really tight the first time. I got it off finally.
I put anti seize on the Plug.

The second time it was easier but it looked like some threads came out with it.
I don't know it they were from the Plug or the Cylinder side.
I put AS on it again and as least some of the threads caught.
It's been on ever since. My fear it the next time I take it off it will be a Trip to SAI.

The OP Needs a Tool like Tony has in his Vids.

I went with the battle Arms one.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 05:11 PM   #28
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John, put a USGI plug in there

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Mine was on really tight the first time. I got it off finally.
I put anti seize on the Plug.

The second time it was easier but it looked like some threads came out with it.
I don't know it they were from the Plug or the Cylinder side.
I put AS on it again and as least some of the threads caught.
It's been on ever since. My fear it the next time I take it off it will be a Trip to SAI.

The OP Needs a Tool like Tony has in his Vids.

I went with the battle Arms one.

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Old January 11th, 2017, 05:39 PM   #29
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had I known that this would be such a problem, I would have put some anti-seize (always have some on hand) on those threads before I fired the first round.

even with the Battle Arms tool and a wrench i'm still having no luck.

tomorrow i'll try a cheater pipe and the padded vise approach.

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What will that do it the finish? Just asking?
Nothing. Put a couple of minutes worth of suppressive fire thru an M14 and the gas cylinder will get red hot. When it cools, the oxide looks black again.

In this case, you only need to heat the gas cylinder enough to expand the threads. You might be able to do it with just a candle, but it may take awhile. A small propane torch usually just takes about 30 seconds.

New gas plugs are tight because they aren't lubed and are most likely spun on with an air tool.

On used rifles, firing the rifle will peen the threads if they are not lubed and snug. Keep in mind that both the gas cylinder and the plug are expendable. There is a reason why so many surplus parts are in the supply chain.

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