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Old January 6th, 2017, 08:34 PM   #1
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Trigger change?

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My trigger will sometimes not reset back to the first take-up stage even when I hold it back after that shot is fired.

It seems to do this quite inconsistently, and when I go to squeeze the trigger again I get a surprise that I'm not expecting.

I know that some of us like to be surprised by the shot but this is not what's happening exactly if you know what I mean.

When I first got it I was kind of babying the trigger and would end up getting a double fire.
I read quite a bit about this happening when I first got it.



My question is what what I have to do to change this to a regular G.I. trigger?

What components will I need to change? Trigger, hammer?


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Old January 6th, 2017, 08:44 PM   #2
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If you want to go lighter, with minimal takeup, and smooth pull ?

Then shooting sights NM trigger and hammer combo.

If you want to go GI, replace the hammer, trigger, and spring should do it I would think. But that will be heavier, and grittier.

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Old January 6th, 2017, 09:07 PM   #3
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If you want to go lighter, with minimal takeup, and smooth pull ?

Then shooting sights NM trigger and hammer combo.

If you want to go GI, replace the hammer, trigger, and spring should do it I would think. But that will be heavier, and grittier.
I was just looking at shooting sights triggers!

Looks like a good deal?

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I was just looking at shooting sights triggers!

Looks like a good deal?
I think they are the best triggers out there for the m14 platform.
Combined with his speed hammer, it is really nice.
Tony ben has a video on it.

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Old January 6th, 2017, 09:23 PM   #5
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I think they are the best triggers out there for the m14 platform.
Combined with his speed hammer, it is really nice.
Tony ben has a video on it.
I think that will be the one I go with.

Thanks.

I have seen Tony Ben's vids, but not that one.

I gota go look for it.

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Old January 6th, 2017, 09:26 PM   #6
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I think that will be the one I go with.

Thanks.

I have seen Tony Ben's vids, but not that one.

I gota go look for it.
I only wish I could buy 3 more for the others I have.

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Old January 7th, 2017, 03:43 AM   #7
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For a start, I would recommend going to CMP's estore and getting an M1 trigger/sear and hammer for a total of about 50 bucks. Install them and see what you think. I love the feel of them in most of my rifles.
If that is not what you are looking for then I would go with Art's adjustable trigger set up. Photo is of Shootingsights' adjustable EBR trigger I received from Art at Camp Perry last year.



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Old January 7th, 2017, 08:26 AM   #8
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I would first do the 'emery cloth fix' described here -

How to reverse a trigger job ?

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Old January 7th, 2017, 11:49 AM   #9
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if I don't constantly remember to deliberately pull it back while holding it tight to my shoulder it will double on me.

It will sometimes not reset all the way forward either if I don't remember to let it spring back on it's own, and slowly release it forward, therefore loosing it's first stage.


I would like to get something with a lighter pull but still reliable.
To be honest, what you are describing is "normal" for a M1/M14 trigger. You have to pull back fully, and let it release forward fully.

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To be honest, what you are describing is "normal" for a M1/M14 trigger. You have to pull back fully, and let it release forward fully.
Thanks, but I do do that.

I've went back and edited my original post now that I know better how to explain what's going on.

What is happening is it is not releasing all the way forward and Instead just stopping at the break, therefore there is no take up at all.

Shouldn't it go all the way forward after i release it every time?

Like I said it is not doing this and just releasing as far as the final break after take-up.

It seems to be doing this quite erratically.. Which leads me to believe that there may be a problem.

Thanks again everyone for the help.

My apologies for not originally explaining this better.

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Thanks for the thread. It is good after the new year to have a reason to put the thinking cap on.

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Ok, so that's a completely different horse of another color.

Take the TG out and manually work it. Do you need to manually move the trigger forward like it's binding or not enough hammer spring force? Could be worn out spring or pin.


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Thanks, but I do do that.

I've went back and edited my original post now that I know better how to explain what's going on.

What is happening is it is not releasing all the way forward and Instead just stopping at the break, therefore there is no take up at all.

Shouldn't it go all the way forward after i release it every time?

Like I said it is not doing this and just releasing as far as the final break after take-up.

It seems to be doing this quite erratically.. Which leads me to believe that there may be a problem.

Thanks again everyone for the help.

My apologies for not originally explaining this better.

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Ok, so that's a completely different horse of another color.

Take the TG out and manually work it. Do you need to manually move the trigger forward like it's binding or not enough hammer spring force? Could be worn out spring or pin.
Okay cool, I will definitely take it apart and try that tonight.

I do know that when it is in the rifle and does not reset all the way forward I cannot manually move it forward at all it just stays right at the breaking point.

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Old January 7th, 2017, 02:52 PM   #14
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Check and see how it functions when the stock is not involved. Lock it into the reciever and test.

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Watch this video closely and replicate it with yours. Its a Garand trigger group but works the same
http://vid47.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8749d9d0.mp4

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