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Old January 5th, 2017, 01:46 PM   #16
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Woops, missed that sorry.
No worries at all.
I hope to eventually get into reloading - but at the moment I have no place to set it up. I need to clear off a few teenagers in the next 2 years and then I'll be able to purge out their stuff from the basement and set up a work area.

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Old January 5th, 2017, 02:18 PM   #17
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Roger that. Makes sense.



So - this stuff: http://www.federalpremium.com/ammuni...artition/p308e
Yes that would be a good round for elk. Border line heavy for a m1a, I pretty sure they make the same ammo in 150 or 165 if not both. If you sight in your rifle and only shoot this ammo for hunting I personally don't think a few 180 gr rounds will hurt it. Stay away from they hornady superformace or anything that says light magnum. As these are very hot loads regardless of bullet weight.

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Get on all the bullet manufacture's websites and look at their hunting bullet pages. You can gain info about the different projectiles and loaded ammunition there. They'll all tell you theirs is the best of course. Be ready to drop some coin for loaded hunting ammunition.

Match bullets come apart upon impact. As others have said, you may have to put several rounds into an animal, follow a blood trail for days, or flat out lose the animal...major fail. You can effectively use match ammo on varmits or small predators (no exit wound saves the hide).

There are many guys I know that don't know crap about rifles and ammunition, yet pull game out of the woods every year. They use Remington core-loct ammo. I don't use it, but I know it's killed many animals over the years. It should be easier on the pocket book vs. the premium hunting loads.

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Get on all the bullet manufacture's websites and look at their hunting bullet pages. You can gain info about the different projectiles and loaded ammunition there. They'll all tell you theirs is the best of course. Be ready to drop some coin for loaded hunting ammunition.

Match bullets come apart upon impact. As others have said, you may have to put several rounds into an animal, follow a blood trail for days, or flat out lose the animal...major fail. You can effectively use match ammo on varmits or small predators (no exit wound saves the hide).

There are many guys I know that don't know crap about rifles and ammunition, yet pull game out of the woods every year. They use Remington core-loct ammo. I don't use it, but I know it's killed many animals over the years. It should be easier on the pocket book vs. the premium hunting loads.
Nothing at all wrong with the rem coreloct bullets they work.

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Nothing at all wrong with the rem coreloct bullets they work.
Agreed. Lots of guys have success with them. Good budget load....relatively speaking of course!

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Old January 5th, 2017, 03:18 PM   #21
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I won't say "budget is no issue" --- but dropping $40/box every other week or such over the course of the winter into early spring so I can go to the range and start testing to find the right ammo my rifle loves, gives me the accuracy I can live with, and will drop an elk with a properly placed shot humanely - I am willing to make that investment. I mean - in theory I'd think 1 20 round box should be enough to test accuracy / sight in accordingly.

Nice thing is - that ATN X-SIGHT II HD I want to get - I can create a profile for each different round, then delete / eliminate profiles as I narrow down to the "best 3" kind of thing.

Correct me if I am wrong about this but when I engage this experiment... I probably want to be sure to shoot "cold barrel" as much as possible, right, to match hunting conditions? So minimum of about 1 minute between each round to let the barrel cool after each shot, yeah? Or is that overkill to determine consistency / accuracy?

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I won't say "budget is no issue" --- but dropping $40/box every other week or such over the course of the winter into early spring so I can go to the range and start testing to find the right ammo my rifle loves, gives me the accuracy I can live with, and will drop an elk with a properly placed shot humanely - I am willing to make that investment. I mean - in theory I'd think 1 20 round box should be enough to test accuracy / sight in accordingly.

Nice thing is - that ATN X-SIGHT II HD I want to get - I can create a profile for each different round, then delete / eliminate profiles as I narrow down to the "best 3" kind of thing.

Correct me if I am wrong about this but when I engage this experiment... I probably want to be sure to shoot "cold barrel" as much as possible, right, to match hunting conditions? So minimum of about 1 minute between each round to let the barrel cool after each shot, yeah? Or is that overkill to determine consistency / accuracy?
Yes, it wouldn't be a bad idea. Also, start your testing when the barrel already has a few round through the tube. When you go out for the hunt, make sure there's also a few rounds through the barrel. Try to avoid shooting a squeaky clean bore.

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Yes cold barrel is a good idea. One box is all you need to see if your rifle likes it or not. If you rifle shoots this ammo to your satisfaction buy a box or two and put it away. After you get your scope/ sights set a box of ammo will last you for years if only shoot it to take game.

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Agreed. Lots of guys have success with them. Good budget load....relatively speaking of course!
Remington has $5 a box rebates a lot of the time on this ammo which makes it even better. Can be had for well under $20 a box if you shop around and wait for rebates.

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Might give this a try. I've only used their factory loads in a 300 bo but very accurate ammo.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/26...free-box-of-20

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As bill said earlier nosler accubond 165 gr.

Midway has it under nosler trophy grade 165 accubond. Good sectional density and b.c. Plus good reviews on mule deer and a 500lb elk. $40 bucks plus a box, worth a shot.

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Took a deer with 165 federal fusion great round shoots good on paper too.

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Old January 5th, 2017, 07:26 PM   #28
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As bill said earlier nosler accubond 165 gr.

Midway has it under nosler trophy grade 165 accubond. Good sectional density and b.c. Plus good reviews on mule deer and a 500lb elk. $40 bucks plus a box, worth a shot.
Did not know they had a factory load for that. Good to know. It's a great bullet.

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you would want a .308 bullet that is heavier than what your M14 can normally fire without damaging your op rod.
Wait.... theres regular factory load of 308 ammo that can screw up our M1A/M14 rifles? Most specifically bend op rods? Or am I misreading this....

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Wait.... theres regular factory load of 308 ammo that can screw up our M1A/M14 rifles? Most specifically bend op rods? Or am I misreading this....
Recommended muzzle velocity for 165s out of a M1A is usually 2600 fps (I would think <2700) unless you use a grooved piston or Schuster adjustable gas plug. Generally high performance factory 308s are not recommended (my 2 cents).

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