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Old August 22nd, 2016, 11:03 AM   #1
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My H&R Build starts today !! ( Pic's )

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Just got my receiver back from my FFL last week and it looks great !! Contacted
James River Armory about using my H&R Heal that I had stashed away and since
I have collected up all the H&R marked parts + some NIW H&R parts I figured I would
give this a go... Here are some Pic's of the receiver and will update as it gets built









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Old August 22nd, 2016, 11:35 AM   #2
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Appears to be some porosity in the weld there. Maybe its just the photo. I hope it works out for you!

Good luck with your build!

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Old August 22nd, 2016, 11:39 AM   #3
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Old August 22nd, 2016, 11:43 AM   #4
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It appears to me that their technique is not yet perfected. If someone wants to spend the money for one of these I would think they would be willing to spend even a bit more to have the work done by a skilled professional welder and a skilled professional machinist. What is illustrated in these photos still leaves much to be desired in my opinion.

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It appears to me that their technique is not yet perfected. If someone wants to spend the money for one of these I would think they would be willing to spend even a bit more to have the work done by a skilled professional welder and a skilled professional machinist. What is illustrated in these photos still leaves much to be desired in my opinion.
I have read all the Post on this forum about all the issues regarding a welded Heal Receiver / JRA's work and at the end of the day I'm happy with what I received !! Is it 100% perfect NO and I'm not planning on sending thousands and thousands of rounds down range so this will get me where I want to be with out spending $ 25,000.00 + dollars on a REAL Transferable M14 !!

Lets face it this is a " niche " with in a " niche " when it comes to building a faithful reproduction of our beloved M14 Rifle, some of us just care about having US GI parts , some have to have all GI Parts that were Maker Marked from one Maker ( Springfield , H&R , Winchester , TRW ) some of us go way out and source NIW Maker Parts that 99.9 % of us couldn't tell by looking at the part who made it ? but then you can say well my M14 has ALL correct parts like it did when it left the Factory. I think for some of us the JRA Receiver fill's that " niche " in our collection with out draining our bank account buying a Real M14.

Will Post more Pic's as she goes together...

P.S. If anyone has a Springfield Heal they can part with let me know...

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They are getting better all the time.
The one I have from the first batch is chugging along fine.
Fire away and we have to have a range report soon.

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Old August 22nd, 2016, 01:33 PM   #7
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I fully understand attempting/accomplishing putting together an all GI rifle but can remember when having LRB build my rifle that option was discussed but explained to the builder that my sole purpose was to have a rifle with quality components so as to function reliably and accurately w/ proper loads and turned out that is exactly what I received for my money. Year or so ago friend of mine purchased an SAI M1A and sold it for LRB was then offering a complete GI parts kit minus receiver and he went that route and worked out very well for him. GI or otherwise, great rifles in all respects and glory to those who can be fortunate enough to have a near clone of the real deal.

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I have read all the Post on this forum about all the issues regarding a welded Heal Receiver / JRA's work and at the end of the day I'm happy with what I received !! Is it 100% perfect NO and I'm not planning on sending thousands and thousands of rounds down range so this will get me where I want to be with out spending $ 25,000.00 + dollars on a REAL Transferable M14 !!

Lets face it this is a " niche " with in a " niche " when it comes to building a faithful reproduction of our beloved M14 Rifle, some of us just care about having US GI parts , some have to have all GI Parts that were Maker Marked from one Maker ( Springfield , H&R , Winchester , TRW ) some of us go way out and source NIW Maker Parts that 99.9 % of us couldn't tell by looking at the part who made it ? but then you can say well my M14 has ALL correct parts like it did when it left the Factory. I think for some of us the JRA Receiver fill's that " niche " in our collection with out draining our bank account buying a Real M14.

Will Post more Pic's as she goes together...

P.S. If anyone has a Springfield Heal they can part with let me know...

Thanks !!

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My post was not intended as a criticism of you and you don't have to defend your desires or the quality issues surrounding your receiver. I'm glad you are happy with what you have purchased, but please do keep in mind that not everyone on this forum has your perspective. If I personally were to attempt to weld a GI heel to a commercial receiver I would want the work to be flawless. I've seen many flawless re-welded M1 rifle receivers that were done years ago, so that standard of workmanship is certainly possible. The only question currently to be answered is whether or not the person performing the work at JRA has a personal standard of flawless workmanship. Thus far in the process that has not been demonstrated. Do I want to see JRA achieve that level of workmanship? You bet I do. I think they deserve all the credit for even undertaking this project, but credit for taking on the project does not extend to the finished product when there are readily visible issues with the welding and machining. I'm not a gray person, I'm a black or white person, there is no middle ground with me, it's either right or it's not. So far, it is not right. Perhaps in time it will be.

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Didn't take it as criticism and was just trying to say this type of build is not for everyone and a lot of people go about these " Clone " builds in there own way and thank god we have lots of vendors of receivers and parts to choose from. This reminds me of buying cars, people buy Chevy , Ford , Dodge , Lexus, Audi, Porsche, Toyota , Honda , Mazda Etc.. Etc.. every day for different reasons and I'm sure quality is figured in the buying decision at some point.

I'm just glad the guys with these receivers have been posting Pic's of there builds and I'm trying to do the same so the guys on the fence can " Kick the Tires " if you will before spending the money and possibility be disappointed with what they get.. I'm with you I hope JRA gets better with every one they do or we get another vender that can do this type of " niche " work too.. Competition can be a good thing !! We Need Options !!!

I'm off to work on the H&R build...

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I like the Thought behind these and must say they are of interest to me. Clearly JRA has come a long way from their first offerings, I just hope they come a little farther, that would be the point where I will spend my hard earned cash.

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This reminds me of buying cars, people buy Chevy , Ford , Dodge , Lexus, Audi, Porsche, Toyota , Honda , Mazda Etc.. Etc.. every day for different reasons and I'm sure quality is figured in the buying decision at some point.

That's it, you made my hit list, Sport!!!! Not once did you even think Plymouth? I will be watching YOU!!

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I think they deserve all the credit for even undertaking this project, but credit for taking on the project does not extend to the finished product when there are readily visible issues with the welding and machining. I'm not a gray person, I'm a black or white person, there is no middle ground with me, it's either right or it's not.
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Looking good Sharky!

Enjoy in good health.

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You and my dad would be GOOD friends! You sure y'all weren't separated at birth? :-)
I don't think so.

I was taught a long time ago that it was my responsibility to myself to perform every task I undertook to the best of my ability, irrespective of how menial or important the task might be. If one does not always strive for perfection then nothing will ever be as it should. That's just my personal philosophy.

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Old August 23rd, 2016, 07:13 AM   #15
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Just a quick question here. When James River takes a forged receiver, chops the tail off, and welds a GI tail on, do they redo any heat treatment on the receiver? Thx...

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