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Old October 26th, 2015, 06:47 AM   #91
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Just picked up another McMillan stock (same as Ren has posted above) and she's gonna need to have all the added on bedding removed.
Got some scope work backed up on me, so maybe I'll try and employ the services of Ted Brown on this one.

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Old October 26th, 2015, 06:57 AM   #92
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My XM25 Barnett barrel is blued, not parkerized.
I have 3 Barnett barrels, and all of them are blued.
Toki,

Matt is correct, all the XM25 barrels were parkerized. The very early barrels that BPTco. received from Gene Barnett were blued, but all were refinished using parkerization.

The rest of the Barnett barrels sent to BPTco. were in the white.

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My XM25 Barnett barrel is blued, not parkerized.
I have 3 Barnett barrels, and all of them are blued.
Yes, that is a characteristic of Barnett barrels in general however, directly from Mitch, the ones ordered for XM25 builds were sent in the white and subsequently parkerized. Barnet barrels used by shooting teams and the general public would be blued.

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Old October 26th, 2015, 09:12 AM   #94
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Toki,

Matt is correct, all the XM25 barrels were parkerized. The very early barrels that BPTco. received from Gene Barnett were blued, but all were refinished using parkerization.

The rest of the Barnett barrels sent to BPTco. were in the white.

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I gotta double check. I Think mine is blued, but it could be Park. I'm getting older and I sometimes forget...
Mitch confirmed the authenticity of the kit I bought, so it just may be real smooth park. I'll have to check.

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Old October 26th, 2015, 09:15 AM   #95
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Old October 26th, 2015, 10:14 AM   #96
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I have been looking at your pictures in your thread and that is the same one I have already seen.

Please take some better pictures as that one is none too good, but from what I can tell in that picture it appears to be Blued.

The finish is too smooth and reflective which is indicative of a blued barrel.

More pictures please.

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Old October 26th, 2015, 10:51 AM   #97
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I have been looking at your pictures in your thread and that is the same one I have already seen.

Please take some better pictures as that one is none too good, but from what I can tell in that picture it appears to be Blued.

The finish is too smooth and reflective which is indicative of a blued barrel.

More pictures please.

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I pretty sure it's blued as the op rod guide is parked.

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I as most here know I am a collector of fine firearms, not being able to go out and purchase a real XM25, I must build as close a clone as possible. I have collected the necessary parts to make this a very real possibility.

My question is how far can I deviate from the original and still keep it an XM25 build. My concern is the finish on the receiver, barrel, flash hider and gas cylinder. I know that they(USGI parts) were not Nitrided but parkerized instead.
I don't think it matters. I think what matters is that it's put together right and that it makes you happy. Park it, paint it, nitride it....whatever makes you happy! What more can you ask for if it looks like you want it to and it shoots great?

It's not like you're entering it in an XM25 best of show competition and you'll be docked points because you upgraded the surface properties of your USGI parts. Nobody will ever be able to tell and nobody else will care; but you. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Sounds like it's going to be a fine rifle; especially if Jon is doing the build for you.

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I don't think it matters. I think what matters is that it's put together right and that it makes you happy. Park it, paint it, nitride it....whatever makes you happy! What more can you ask for if it looks like you want it to and it shoots great?

It's not like you're entering it in an XM25 best of show competition and you'll be docked points because you upgraded the surface properties of your USGI parts. Nobody will ever be able to tell and nobody else will care; but you. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Sounds like it's going to be a fine rifle; especially if Jon is doing the build for you.

Tony.
I agree with Tony - based on my reading of your reasoning for the Nitrating not only does it look great but it can prolong the life of certain parts [that are very expensive and difficult to replace] so that in itself will help insure that this rifle lives on long after we depart the M14 scene. Hopefully this will be in your family for MANY years!

On the other hand since it is a collector type build and knowing this will not be a shooter rifle [like most of us think of shooters] parking everything would be just fine too and keep it "correct" with what was used at the time based on what we know.

I kind of think of it as a restoring a classic car - you can restore it or build it up with all original parts, but you might paint it with enamel, lacquer or urethane and most will just be looking at the car and the parts that were used to build the car and say "wow that looks really nice."

It will be a winner regardless of the finish!!!

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Old October 26th, 2015, 01:44 PM   #100
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Tony and Wes,

Thanks for the input, as this was exactly what I was looking for! I still am not quite sure which avenue to take but I can assure you it will be built correctly as I have chosen Jon Wolfe to do the build.

The collector in me says keep it as original as possible, I have gotten this far I guess I should stay the course and build the best example out there.

Wes, you did hit on it. This rifle will not be abused, shot yes, but well taken care of.

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Old November 3rd, 2015, 04:31 AM   #101
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What cheek rest if any did the XM25 use? Just thought to get the finishing touches, as receiver was ordered yesterday.

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Old November 20th, 2015, 08:11 AM   #102
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Thought to post some pictures of the Bausch & Lomb 10X40 tactical with the Brookfield mount and Badger rings.

This scope is in excellent condition, the lens are crystal clear!

This kit I have put together was not pieced together but instead hand selected from mostly new parts, if it did not meet my very high standards it was not used.

Now all that I am waiting on is the receiver, then off to Jon Wolfe.


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Nice! Did you order a receiver yet? Which model? M14SA, T44E4?

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Old November 20th, 2015, 10:10 AM   #104
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Tony I went with the GunWorks of L.A. Ted and others gave them a great review. They were able to give me a serial number I couldn't resist.

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Old November 20th, 2015, 10:19 AM   #105
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Thought to post some pictures of the Bausch & Lomb 10X40 tactical with the Brookfield mount and Badger rings.


Not exactly a Picatinny rail on that mount , eh?

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