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This is a discussion on The Building of an XM25 and it Parts within the The M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Originally Posted by schaz42 Can you or someone point me in the direction of these non-hooded rear sights and ink marked sight bases? pretty please? ...


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Old October 1st, 2015, 11:01 AM   #76
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Can you or someone point me in the direction of these non-hooded rear sights and ink marked sight bases? pretty please?

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I would like one of the nm non hooded rear sight apertures my self!
Unless your hung up on and must have USGI, a good source for non-hooded NM peep is from early SAI Loaded rifles, there much closer in appearance/feel too USGI NM apertures. Current SAI non-hooded NM apertures look and feel like plastic, I suspect there now made from the MIM process not that it matters as long as it works.

Your on your own for inked stamped NM/A2 bases....

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Old October 1st, 2015, 11:33 PM   #77
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Ren, or anyone that can answer, what sound suppressor was used on the xm/m25 rifles? Ans are there any similar suppressors made today?

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Ren, or anyone that can answer, what sound suppressor was used on the xm/m25 rifles? Ans are there any similar suppressors made today?
Hey Shaun,

The XM25 did not use a suppressor and I can't tell you what kind the M25 used.
I will try to get you an answer in the next few days.

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Ren, or anyone that can answer, what sound suppressor was used on the xm/m25 rifles? Ans are there any similar suppressors made today?
OPS Inc. was the manufacturer, you can find that info in Difference's book.

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Old October 6th, 2015, 09:51 PM   #80
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Phil and Mitch worked together on the suppressor/piston combo for the 25. That revision 2 piston was developed at the same time as the OPS suppressor for the 25. Senich's book "Long Range War: Sniping in Vietnam" has a picture in the back of Kapp with a suppressed 25 in an early M2A McMillan stock.

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Old October 8th, 2015, 03:57 AM   #81
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I have been searching and have found nothing to indicate that Freeland Butt pads were used on the XM25.
There is evidence that they were used on the M25.

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I have been searching and have found nothing to indicate that Freeland Butt pads were used on the XM25.
There is evidence that they were used on the M25.

Ren
So, what are you going to use?

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Old October 8th, 2015, 07:12 AM   #83
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So, what are you going to use?
I am going to do as you suggested!

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Old October 8th, 2015, 07:14 AM   #84
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I have been searching and have found nothing to indicate that Freeland Butt pads were used on the XM25.
There is evidence that they were used on the M25.

Ren
I know to some that this maybe splitting hairs, but as collectors this is what we do!

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Old October 22nd, 2015, 01:43 AM   #86
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what scope are you going to use on that beauty? and what iron sight type and maker?
Shaun,

I can finally answer your question.

Bausch & Lomb Tactical Elite 10X in Excellent condition!
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Old October 24th, 2015, 03:34 PM   #87
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I think the list below has now been established to be correct for my XM25 build, which Jon Wolf and co. will be doing.

1. McMillan Second Gen Marine Corps Stock circa 1988.................... Nice
2. Gene Barnett Barrel Med. Weight 4 Groove w/modified gas cylinder New
3. BPT Stock Liner/installation tool New
4. BPT Scope Mount New
5. BPT Op-Rod Spring guide New
6. BPT Gas Piston rev.1 New

Winchester parts.
7. Trigger housing 66118 New
8. Hammer 66118 original finish Excellent
9. Trigger&Sear new from wrap New
10. Bolt 66118 original finish New
11. Op-Rod 66118 original finish Excellent

Sights.
12. USGI NM rear sight base stamped in Ink NM/2A New
13. Elevation Pinion WCE appears to be New
14. Windage Knob L.P.R. NM New
15. NM aperture non-hooded New
16. USGI NM Front Sight .062 New

Other known parts
17. H&R Op-rod Spring New
18. SA. Gas Cylinder Lock New
19. KMTco. Butt Plate ASSY. New

20. NM Flash Suppressor USGI New
21. Bausch & Lomb 10X40 tactical Elite/Badger rings Excellent
22. Receiver GunWorks LA.Serial#XM25

All others part while not identifiable to any one particular manufacturer are USGI in Excellent to New condition.


Jon Wolf was chosen to do this build because of the great recommendations he has received and because I am aware he has experience with this type M14.

All parts will keep their original finish with the exception of the barrel and gas cylinder which will be Nitrided.



Ren



Just wanted to add the Scope and rings to my parts list #21 This build was not pieced together, the parts were hand picked! As you can see all parts are new or in Excellent near new condition.


Ren

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Old October 26th, 2015, 05:32 AM   #88
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I as most here know I am a collector of fine firearms, not being able to go out and purchase a real XM25, I must build as close a clone as possible. I have collected the necessary parts to make this a very real possibility.

My question is how far can I deviate from the original and still keep it an XM25 build. My concern is the finish on the receiver, barrel, flash hider and gas cylinder. I know that they(USGI parts) were not Nitrided but parkerized instead.

I do believe that at least some of the barrels on XM25/M25 were blued(IIRC) and so the nitriding process might not be such a deviation. I do want to protect my investment, particularly the barrel as it can not be replaced.

Your opinions are welcomed!

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The high lighted above turned out to be incorrect. No blued barrels were ever used on the XM25s.


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Ren, I don't believe any XM25 / M25 were blued. What you are thinking of is that Gene Barnett blued his barrels but the ones used on the XM25 rifles were delivered in the white and then parkerized. On the XM25 all parts are manganese phosphate plated, gas cylinder assembly is treated with sodium dichromate ( low temp process). That said, personally, I don't think nitride is too far a stretch. But that is a personal choice...

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Ren, I don't believe any XM25 / M25 were blued. What you are thinking of is that Gene Barnett blued his barrels but the ones used on the XM25 rifles were delivered in the white and then parkerized. On the XM25 all parts are manganese phosphate plated, gas cylinder assembly is treated with sodium dichromate ( low temp process). That said, personally, I don't think nitride is too far a stretch. But that is a personal choice...
My XM25 Barnett barrel is blued, not parkerized.
I have 3 Barnett barrels, and all of them are blued.

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