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Old September 17th, 2015, 08:43 AM   #16
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i don't think Ted was saying its not an authentic usmc stock.

if i read his post right he was simply saying yours is a gen II. i doubt the instructors would keep the original stocks if the main reason for the change was that they didnt like them!

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Old September 17th, 2015, 09:30 AM   #17
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Can't wait to see the finished rifle!

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Old September 17th, 2015, 10:18 AM   #18
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Dredsen is right, I don't have any doubts that the stock is a real Marine Corps stock. It looks like those used for advanced marksmanship teams. Is this stock inletted for a rear or double lugged receiver? If it is a M25 stock it would have the Brookfield liner bedded in it already. McMillan changed their design around 1987. This is really a great project and I don't see any problem using this stock. Some late issue M25 rifles probably had them or may have been rebuilt with them. It's really a non-issue, but it would be cool to use one of the earlier stocks.

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Old September 17th, 2015, 10:35 AM   #19
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I never said it was an original XM25 stock, just that it is correct for this build. I would love to have the original "Smeared Camo McMillan", they are however difficult at best to find. Bamban has one but I don't believe he will let it go anytime soon.

I am happy to use this second gen McMillan stock, it came a little beat up, but I was able to smooth out the rough spots. I contacted McMillan and sent them pictures, they confirmed that its a second generation and thought it too valuable a stock for me to work on. I declined their offer and had them send me a repair kit.

I think it turned out pretty well.

It is inletted for a rear lugged receiver.


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Old September 17th, 2015, 12:31 PM   #20
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These are the Winchester parts I will be using.












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Old September 17th, 2015, 06:54 PM   #21
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Old September 17th, 2015, 08:46 PM   #22
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Ren, what Ted is referring to with the "wood grain" you can see in my XM25 stock in this pic.


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Old September 18th, 2015, 12:29 AM   #23
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[quote=tokiwartooth;1627538]Ren, what Ted is referring to with the "wood grain" you can see in my XM25 stock in this pic.



Yes sir, I understand that. I will take a few more pictures showing the grain in the finish.

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Old September 18th, 2015, 05:18 AM   #24
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Does your stock have a second cutout behind the bolt release cutout?
Still trying to figure out what this was for.

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Old September 18th, 2015, 11:46 AM   #25
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Here's a picture of the wood grain, I hope this is satisfactory.

Joe mine does not have the cutout behind the bolt lock and directly under the windage and elevation knobs. It is possible that your stock may have been used for another purpose originally?



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Old September 21st, 2015, 05:13 AM   #26
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I think the list below has now been established to be correct for my XM25 build, which Jon Wolf and co. will be doing.

1. McMillan Second Gen Marine Corps Stock.................................... Nice
2. Gene Barnett Barrel Med. Weight 4 Groove w/modified gas cylinder New
3. BPT Stock Liner/installation tool New
4. BPT Scope Mount New
5. BPT Op-Rod Spring guide New
6. BPT Gas Piston rev.1 New

Winchester parts.
7. Trigger housing 66118 New
8. Hammer 66118 original finish Excellent
9. Trigger&Sear new from wrap New
10. Bolt 66118 original finish New
11. Op-Rod 66118 original finish Excellent

Sights.
12. USGI NM rear sight base stamped in Ink NM/2A New
13. Elevation Pinion WCE appears to be New
14. Windage Knob L.P.R. NM New
15. NM aperture non-hooded New
16. USGI NM Front Sight .062 New

Other known parts
17. H&R Op-rod Spring New
18. SA. Gas Cylinder Lock New
19. KMTco. Butt Plate ASSY. New

20. NM Flash Suppressor USGI New

All others part while not identifiable to any one particular manufacturer are USGI in Excellent to New condition.

This brings me to the one last detail of the XM25 build and while it is a major part of the XM25 I believe it is not a deal breaker and does lend itself well to the overall project, the Scope. I have decided to use the Leupold Mark 4 in current manufacture.

While it does deviate from the original, it is still very close and built by the original manufacturer. This does have advantages over the original. New clear glass is always a plus, full enforceable warranty. I do plan on shooting this rifle!

I was able to locate an original but with flaws I could not live with, I contacted Leupold and was told that they would not work on it. I contacted several other reputable scope repair shops and was told that they could not offer any guarantees that it could even be fixed. I had to pass.

Jon Wolf was chosen to do this build because of the great recommendations he has received and because I am aware he has experience with this type M14.

All parts will keep their original finish with the exception of the barrel and gas cylinder which will be Nitrided.

The last part I have yet to acquire is the receiver, would like to have an LRB if I can't get one of Patrick's(Ironworker).

Ren




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Old September 21st, 2015, 06:00 AM   #27
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Renisin,

Congrats on your M25 build AND keeping it true to the original with parts, etc. That took a lot of looking, I'm sure.
Really waiting for the final build pictures and the results of how it shoots...

Had a M25 "clone" that shot beautifully. Shouldn't have sold it a decade ago...

There goes that 20/20 hind sight again

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Old September 22nd, 2015, 09:18 AM   #28
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I forgot to mention that the butt plate it came with was switched out, the original was well used. I replaced it with a new KMTco marked butt plate assy.

Ren

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Old September 22nd, 2015, 05:42 PM   #29
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Maybe some one can clarify, but were most BPT modified parts for the XM25 from TRW?
I know every part in my kit is a TRW part.

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Old September 22nd, 2015, 05:43 PM   #30
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what's wrong with the scope?

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