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Old February 11th, 2006, 08:21 AM   #1
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Supermatch with Shaw Stock

My new Supermatch arrived Thursday, serial number 061026. According to Springfield Armory it was made 11/90. It had the designation SA9115 which was a Supermatch with a Douglas barrel and Shaw stock. All the other parts appear to be USGI including a TRW bolt, HR op rod and SA trigger housing and HR hammer.

It all seems to be fitted very well with the bedded stock and unitized gas system, NM op rod spring guide, and NM sights.

Are any of you familiar with the Shaw stock? I understand it was designed to be used with the Harris mount. What adapter was intended to be used? Its not obvious to me looking at the stock. Does it use the swivel stud with the flat plate or was there a special adapter for the Shar stock? The dimensions don't look quite right for the standard #2 adapter.

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Old August 20th, 2006, 05:56 AM   #2
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My new Supermatch arrived Thursday, serial number 061026. According to Springfield Armory it was made 11/90. It had the designation SA9115 which was a Supermatch with a Douglas barrel and Shaw stock. All the other parts appear to be USGI including a TRW bolt, HR op rod and SA trigger housing and HR hammer.

It all seems to be fitted very well with the bedded stock and unitized gas system, NM op rod spring guide, and NM sights.

Are any of you familiar with the Shaw stock? I understand it was designed to be used with the Harris mount. What adapter was intended to be used? Its not obvious to me looking at the stock. Does it use the swivel stud with the flat plate or was there a special adapter for the Shar stock? The dimensions don't look quite right for the standard #2 adapter.

Thanks,
Cass
Cass,

Did you ever get this figured out?

Take care,

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Old August 20th, 2006, 01:10 PM   #3
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wow....never saw a stock like that one. I wonder how many of them were made?

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Old August 21st, 2006, 01:23 AM   #4
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Aloha Cass,

I dug up an old John Shaw book in which he taught tactical shooting techniques and it had a small section in the back on tactical rifle and shotgun.

This is where I first saw this example... it went on to explain that it was a Shaw design that SAI picked up.

There a few pictures of him shooting his M1A...

I can scan it later this week if you like. My scanner is not the greatest, but I think I can do it is you like.

Aloha,

Tom O.

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Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:10 PM   #5
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Aloha Cass,

I dug up an old John Shaw book in which he taught tactical shooting techniques and it had a small section in the back on tactical rifle and shotgun.

This is where I first saw this example... it went on to explain that it was a Shaw design that SAI picked up.

There a few pictures of him shooting his M1A...

I can scan it later this week if you like. My scanner is not the greatest, but I think I can do it is you like.

Aloha,

Tom O.
Tom:

Yes, that's exactly what I'm looking for! If you can scan it that would be great. You can e-mail them to me at: mjcdmc@comcast.net

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Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:36 PM   #6
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Tony:

Thanks for bringing this old post back up to the top. I did get some good suggestions across the street. I can remove the two screws holding the swivel in place and a QD stud and nut fits perfectly in one of the holes.

The problem is that all of the Harris bipods I have seen have a curved "cradle" on the top where they fit against the bottom of the stock. The curve doesn't appear to allow the bipod close enough to grip the QD when its mounted on the flat bottom of the stock swell.

Maybe Tom's pictures will help.

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Old August 22nd, 2006, 07:39 PM   #7
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wow....never saw a stock like that one. I wonder how many of them were made?
I'd like to know that too. This is the only one I've ever seen. I was pleased when SA confirmed that it came that way originally, and even had a special model number.

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Old August 23rd, 2006, 02:31 AM   #8
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Aloha Cass,

I'm sorry it took so long, but I have two pics. One is of the book cover (don't laugh at how old this book is) and two, is on the rifles with a brief description... I hope these are helpful.

I can email you the super high resolution files if you like... let me know... but I will post here for others to see.





I hope this helps and is what you are looking for. My scanner apologizes for the poor scans but is not feeling well...

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Tony:

Thanks for bringing this old post back up to the top. I did get some good suggestions across the street. I can remove the two screws holding the swivel in place and a QD stud and nut fits perfectly in one of the holes.

The problem is that all of the Harris bipods I have seen have a curved "cradle" on the top where they fit against the bottom of the stock. The curve doesn't appear to allow the bipod close enough to grip the QD when its mounted on the flat bottom of the stock swell.

Maybe Tom's pictures will help.

Cass
Check out Fulton's site , they have the bottom rails that bolt on in place of the swivel on your stock , then all you need is the ARMS adaptor for your bipod . N.Ctb

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a laminated walnut shaw stock?....very cool!
wonder who made those?

(whats a muzzle mizer?)

thanks for the pics Mr. O!
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The problem is that all of the Harris bipods I have seen have a curved "cradle" on the top where they fit against the bottom of the stock. The curve doesn't appear to allow the bipod close enough to grip the QD when its mounted on the flat bottom of the stock swell.
Cass:
from looking at Mr O's pics you can see that the harris base looks the same as current harris bipods, the shaw stock would ride the harris base edges which flare out nearly flat, there are no sling loops in those pics so they were most likeley removed and replaced with a plate and stud for the bipod install.
with no sling loop in the way the bipod's stud "grabber" will reach no problem.
the bipods have a sling loop stud on their bases (mine do anyway).

heres another mounting option, bipod OR sling stud....your choice as it suits you: $40
http://www.tanksrifleshop.com/m14.htm
Tank's M14 Adapter Plate
http://www.tanksrifleshop.com/images...pter_m14_2.jpg

HTH


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Old August 23rd, 2006, 05:16 AM   #11
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Cass,

Here is John Shaw's Webpage. Maybe he can help.


Take care,

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Old August 23rd, 2006, 05:22 PM   #12
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Aloha Cass,

I'm sorry it took so long, but I have two pics. One is of the book cover (don't laugh at how old this book is) and two, is on the rifles with a brief description... I hope these are helpful.

I can email you the super high resolution files if you like... let me know... but I will post here for others to see.

[qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/dighawaii/DigHawaii%20Pics/Scan0004.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/dighawaii/DigHawaii%20Pics/2.jpg[/qimg]

I hope this helps and is what you are looking for. My scanner apologizes for the poor scans but is not feeling well...

Aloha,

Tom O.
Thanks, Tom! That is exactly what I needed. Go ahead and e-mail me the high resolution scans if you don't mind.

That's not old by the way. Books and magazines don't even start to get interesting to me until they are about that age, ha!

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Old August 23rd, 2006, 05:24 PM   #13
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Here is John Shaw's Webpage. Maybe he can help.


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I discovered that site yesterday and already e-mailed him. I haven't heard back yet but hopefully he will respond.

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Old August 23rd, 2006, 05:27 PM   #14
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a laminated walnut shaw stock?....very cool!
wonder who made those?

(whats a muzzle mizer?)

thanks for the pics Mr. O!
=======================
Cass:
from looking at Mr O's pics you can see that the harris base looks the same as current harris bipods, the shaw stock would ride the harris base edges which flare out nearly flat, there are no sling loops in those pics so they were most likeley removed and replaced with a plate and stud for the bipod install.
with no sling loop in the way the bipod's stud "grabber" will reach no problem.
the bipods have a sling loop stud on their bases (mine do anyway).

heres another mounting option, bipod OR sling stud....your choice as it suits you: $40
http://www.tanksrifleshop.com/m14.htm
Tank's M14 Adapter Plate
http://www.tanksrifleshop.com/images...pter_m14_2.jpg

HTH
I'll have to try one. The Harris mount I had handy was all camo'ed-up and I didn't want to crank the screws down and lose the camo. If it will reach that would be the best deal.

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Old January 8th, 2007, 09:57 AM   #15
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I thought I would bring this back up to the top since I just saw pictures of another Supermatch with Shaw stock for the first time. It just sold on the PX and had a couple nice pictures attached.

Here is part of the description from the ad:

"Springfield super match with Douglas CM barrel, and rare shaw combat stock offered as an option in 1988 and so marked on the box end. The shaw stock incorperates a Harris bipod which is included. This rifle has been fired only 40rds with Federal gold match. Barrel was swabbed after each shot. This rifle was built in September 1988 and uses GI parts excluding reciever, bbl,stock."

I'll pull the pictures here as well for future reference.

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