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Old June 30th, 2014, 07:55 AM   #121
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I will bet that my used SAI take-off NM barrel I got for $75 with only 2 boxes of ammo through it will shoot just as good as your TRW NM barrel, and it was MUCH easier to find!

That is a very sweet collector piece for sure. I have only read of those barrels up to now. Thanks for sharing the pics with us. So they do exist!
I can not afford to be much of a collector because I can not help but to take the toys out of the package to play with. I commend you Ren for your will-power to not shoot or use all those nice rifles and parts. How in the H do you do it?
Quality does make a difference, otherwise we would not spend the coin on such hard to find parts. It's all a matter of economics, as the "dollar" (the dollar originally being a unit of measure equaling 371.25 gr of silver, which of course is no longer in use as species for exchange), that is paper or fiat currency continues to collapse, so goes the buying power of real goods and services compromising it's integrity in exchange for affordable availability.

So that is why we seek after quality hardware as a commodity investment because like silver, and even better than, it holds it's value unaffected by inflation because of it's intrinsic quality. And besides, there is such a thing as preserving history, even in the midst of "progress".

But I can see your side too, it's kinda like having a beautiful woman begging you to play with her and telling her to stop by so you can just look at her now and then.

And yes, they do exist!


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Old June 30th, 2014, 08:25 AM   #122
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How in the H do you do it?
He's not a shooter or shooter/collector, just a collector. Simple as that.

I could never fathom not shooting my builds no matter how high-quality. The fact that I am able to make accuracy and functionality claims, to me, offsets any loss of value from wear. And in 20 years from now USGI parts will be rare enough that a shift from excellent to like new will have little consequence in terms of value.

So shoot them.

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Old June 30th, 2014, 09:08 AM   #123
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I will bet that my used SAI take-off NM barrel I got for $75 with only 2 boxes of ammo through it will shoot just as good as your TRW NM barrel, and it was MUCH easier to find!

That is a very sweet collector piece for sure. I have only read of those barrels up to now. Thanks for sharing the pics with us. So they do exist!
I can not afford to be much of a collector because I can not help but to take the toys out of the package to play with. I commend you Ren for your will-power to not shoot or use all those nice rifles and parts. How in the H do you do it?
Shawn,

Let me tell you I have been close, too close for comfort. I have lots of weapons some I shoot and some I'd like to shoot. I have several that beg to be shot but never will, just too unique.

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Old June 30th, 2014, 09:10 AM   #124
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Quality does make a difference, otherwise we would not spend the coin on such hard to find parts. It's all a matter of economics, as the "dollar" (the dollar originally being a unit of measure equaling 371.25 gr of silver, which of course is no longer in use as species for exchange), that is paper or fiat currency continues to collapse, so goes the buying power of real goods and services compromising it's integrity in exchange for affordable availability.

So that is why we seek after quality hardware as a commodity investment because like silver, and even better than, it holds it's value unaffected by inflation because of it's intrinsic quality. And besides, there is such a thing as preserving history, even in the midst of "progress".

But I can see your side too, it's kinda like having a beautiful woman begging you to play with her and telling her to stop by so you can just look at her now and then.

And yes, they do exist!

Phinehas,

Wait a minute, you mean TRW didn't call it an M1A?

Still waiting for those pictures you promised. Well?

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Old June 30th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #125
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Phinehas,

Wait a minute, you mean TRW didn't call it an M1A?

Still waiting for those pictures you promised. Well?
No, only SAI has the exclusive rights to the nomenclature "M1A" that is roll stamped on everyone of their high quality cast receivers, something those at the old TRW mfg plant could only have dreamed of making way back when.

Yet like you and others I scrounge about looking for all those antiquated old school forged and milled parts made in America, forking out ungodly amounts of cash with the hopes that someday they may be worth the present asking price, knowing if we ever do get around to actually firing them that the best we can hope to achieve down range will likely be 3, maybe 2 if we're lucky, MOA. ((()))

It's going to be awhile Ren, But I will get to it, I promise.

But they did make a nice ashtray.

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Old June 30th, 2014, 05:39 PM   #126
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Here's my useless contribution. NIW E2 Sling.
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Old June 30th, 2014, 05:47 PM   #127
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Here's my useless contribution. NIW E2 Sling.
And even more useless still if you never take it out of the wrap.


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And even more useless still if you never take it out of the wrap.

Don't want to ruin it. Haha!

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Old July 1st, 2014, 12:25 PM   #129
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Don't want to ruin it. Haha!
Matt,

Thats how it starts one part, before you know it you will have built a complete M14A1

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Old July 1st, 2014, 02:05 PM   #130
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It was brought to my attention that I am not a shooter but a collector. I beg to differ!

Not an M14 but one I have shot to distinction.




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Old July 1st, 2014, 02:30 PM   #131
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Ren, I know exactly what you are. I have rifles I shoot and others I don't. Nothing wrong with either one of us. Keep on doing just what your doing.

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Old July 1st, 2014, 03:06 PM   #132
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Ren, it is your money and your passion, do what you enjoy doing, shoot em, hang em on the wall, collect little bags of NIW parts, whatever, it is all part of this hobby, beats the snot out of collecting stamps.

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Old July 3rd, 2014, 10:54 PM   #133
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Ren--machining differences and tolerances. 1st picture is of the back of a HRA M1 garand op-rod,so is the 2nd picture. In the 2nd picture there wasn't as much material in the raw casting to remove in that machining step although the part was within tolerance. Every M1 Garand op-rod had the DOD stamp you see in the 2nd picture-it was a inspection stamp from the previous machining operation to the op-rod that was done on a different machine and was supposed to be removed in the machining step pictured, there just wasn't enough material in this case.
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Old July 4th, 2014, 04:17 AM   #134
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tnw50cal,

First thank you for getting us back on track! Yes I think I understand how from one manufacturer same parts but slight variations of very same part.

Making more sense now. Thanks for the pictures.

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Old July 5th, 2014, 04:19 AM   #135
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I have a good friend who lives in Florida and we get together once or twice a year. He also is a shooter and collector of fine and rare examples of weapons.

We met up at the local gun club to do some skeet shooting, I had told him about my S.A. build and he asked me to bring it. I did and he flipped, said he wanted one just like it and wanted to know where to get one. He asked me what I had in it and offered to buy mine. I told him it was going to be hard finding one and finding the parts in new condition was near impossible.

When we parted he said the offer still stands if I change my mine. He wanted my E2 stock which ant happnin(sic).


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