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This is a discussion on New Rock-Ola M14F within the The M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; I took delivery today of #175. First, a question, and then I'll give you a quick review and I'll post pics later if anyone's interested. ...


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Old January 15th, 2014, 02:56 PM   #1
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New Rock-Ola M14F

I took delivery today of #175. First, a question, and then I'll give you a quick review and I'll post pics later if anyone's interested. I have assumed all along that JRA was only using chrome-lined barrels on these rifles, but his website no longer states this--at least not on the standard M14F. On the "specials" page featuring the M14F at the $1,995 price, the chrome-lined barrel description is there. But on the regular-priced M14F page, the description only reads that it is a new Criterion barrel.

My barrel markings (CBI 7790190 1-12 12/13 4P) are devoid of anything that would especially indicate chome-lining. Since Criterion sells non chrome-lined barrels as well, I would expect there to be something stamped on the barrel to tell the two kinds apart. And I just can't tell from looking at the chamber end if it is just shiny in the white or chromed.

If it turns out that this isn't chrome-lined, I'm going to be a bit bummed; Atlantic Firearms advertised it as such, and I was looking for as close to G.I. as I could get. Anyone know for sure?

On the plus side, most of the rest of the rifle is outstanding--even a little better than the earlier two-digit I examined and fired. The receiver has fewer machining marks, and the serial number, while shallow, looks better than some of the other three-digit heels I've seen pics of. The Winchester oprod was snug and even a little difficult to dismount. There is no rattle at all in the forward band, and I don't think it was even shimmed--just a good tight fit. The USGI flash suppressor appears to be forged and has a nice ring to it when cycling the action. The HRA trigger group looks great, and the spline is in good shape as well. The walnut stock is nicely refinished

The handguard isn't that great. It is obviously a used and repainted piece that fit very loosely, it has some shallow chips under the paint, and the color just looked too light. But that is a very minor thing; I already had a much better one with a tighter clip, and I've replaced that.

I'm not a fan of the appearance of the Rock-Ola bolt. I don't mind the "billboard" markings others have complained about, but I do think they could use some finish machining on top. It looks like they machine both sides and the bottom but mostly leave the top looking pebbly, like it just came from the forge. But that is a very minor and nit-picky observation.

The proof will be in the performance, of course, but from my detailed examination so far, this appears to be a very well-built rifle, and an excellent replacement for an LRB I regretfully sold years ago (except for the chome-lining thing).

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Old January 15th, 2014, 03:57 PM   #2
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I would posit that shiny chamber and extension means either chrome or stainless.

Carbon Steel or chrome moly barrels are always black since they will rust if bare


I'm not an expert so there could be some exception I don't know about.

Grats on the great rifle!

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Old January 15th, 2014, 04:29 PM   #3
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Still waiting on mine from JRA, but when I talked to them about barrel length 22" vs 18.5" I was told the 22" criterion was not chrome lined. The 18.5" medium weight barrel is lined. This is what I was told over the phone and yes I am a newbie, I only have one SAI M1A as of today... Patiently waiting on my #2 JRA.

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Old January 15th, 2014, 04:50 PM   #4
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I've been searching online all evening. I guess I'll just have to call them tomorrow. I keep hoping against hope that since the drawing number "7790190" included chrome lining, that any Criterion barrel so marked has it. But I can't find anything definitative. So far, it looks like the chrome-lined LRB barrels made by Criterion were similarly marked with the exception of "LRB" at the front and "CBI" at the end. nam, you're the second person who's said that JRA told him over the phone that the 22inch criterions weren't chrome-lined. I'm still grasping at straws and hoping that the batch JRA recently sold to Atlantic Firearms had the chrome-lined barrels, and that the wait for the other folks who're waiting on one direct from JRA is because they're waiting on some MORE chrome-lined barrels.

It shouldn't be a big deal. I can't afford enough ammo to wear out a non-chromed barrel--especially after plunking down the cash for the rifle. But it is bugging the heck out of me all the same.

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I've been searching online all evening. I guess I'll just have to call them tomorrow. I keep hoping against hope that since the drawing number "7790190" included chrome lining, that any Criterion barrel so marked has it. But I can't find anything definitative. So far, it looks like the chrome-lined LRB barrels made by Criterion were similarly marked with the exception of "LRB" at the front and "CBI" at the end. nam, you're the second person who's said that JRA told him over the phone that the 22inch criterions weren't chrome-lined. I'm still grasping at straws and hoping that the batch JRA recently sold to Atlantic Firearms had the chrome-lined barrels, and that the wait for the other folks who're waiting on one direct from JRA is because they're waiting on some MORE chrome-lined barrels.

It shouldn't be a big deal. I can't afford enough ammo to wear out a non-chromed barrel--especially after plunking down the cash for the rifle. But it is bugging the heck out of me all the same.
Can't speak about yours since it was an earlier run, maybe you did get one. That's just what they told me in regards to my order. If it makes you feel better I went with the 22" anyway, the length was more important to me. Good luck and I wouldn't fret about it, take her out and put some rounds down range. Enjoy your new rifle!

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I just got out a chrome lined LRB barrel (made by crite) it is not marked chrome lined, but If you post a good pick of the chamber area I bet we can tell, there is a noticeable difference in color between chrome, and in the white. The in the white, will be shinny silver, chrome will look aluminum colored, dull

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Old January 15th, 2014, 05:23 PM   #7
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I just found this old ad:
heel marked polytech barreled action

It clearly states that this is non chrome-lined, and the markings are the same as what's on mine (different year and heat lot, of course).

Pics to follow soon...

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I just found this old ad:
heel marked polytech barreled action

It clearly states that this is non chrome-lined, and the markings are the same as what's on mine (different year and heat lot, of course).

Pics to follow soon...
my chrome lined 18inch carries the same 7790190, as does my GI chrome lined barrel, if that is the number you are referring too

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I just found this old ad:
heel marked polytech barreled action

It clearly states that this is non chrome-lined, and the markings are the same as what's on mine (different year and heat lot, of course).

Pics to follow soon...
I was just about to mention that. that was my barreled action and although the gi parts drawing number was on it it wasn't chrome lined. its kind of confusing isn't it. if the chamber is more shiny than dull that's a sign that its not chrome lined. you can also take off the flash suppressor and check the crown. if its chrome lined you will see a distinct, very thin layer of chrome

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I have #173 my barrel is 18.5 and definately chrome lined here is a photo of the barrel Does the CBI mean Chrome bore

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I'm pretty certain its chrome-lined. Why worry??? It will be as described.

Just take off the FH and look for the chrome-lining. Simple enough.

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I have #173 my barrel is 18.5 and definately chrome lined here is a photo of the barrel Does the CBI mean Chrome bore
from what I understand CBI is just the abreviations for criterion. they should mark their barrels like ar manufactures do in regards to if its chrome lined

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Here is a photo of my barrel markings. It is a 22" chrome lined Criterion. I got this as a barreled action from Fulton Armory. I always thought the "FA" meant Fulton Armory and the "CB" meant chrome bore.
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You've (Herr Trigger) got a different drawing number--7791362--for the shorter barrel perhaps? Also, there appears to be a hyphen and "C" after it, which I suppose means chrome-lined. Dangit. BTW, I really don't want to remove the FH; I never am able to do that without buggering up the castle nut.


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Okay, here are the pics. I tried to take the chamber pics in different levels and angles of light. But I'm thinking more and more that it isn't chromed. Dang!
















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