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Old February 28th, 2013, 09:54 PM   #1
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What Cerakote color most closely matches parkerizing?

Preferably a match to zinc phosphate, the lighter of the two types of parkerizing. I looked on Cerakote's website but it is hard to tell which color would look most like a parkerized M14.

I have found with Duracoat that "Colt Gray" is almost a perfect match for park. However, I'm looking for something a little more durable and started looking into Cerakote.

Anyone ever Cerakote an M14 clone? How does it hold up on wear areas like the bolt and receiver grooves?


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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:35 PM   #2
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Called Cerakote today to ask what they recommended as a match to zinc phosphate. The color he said was "Sniper Grey". I had looked at their website but it's hard to tell on a computer screen if something is exactly what you're looking for color-wise. I was hoping their "gallery" had a pic of an M1, Carbine, or M14 clone but it didn't.

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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:43 PM   #3
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I think i recall that sniper grey being more of a grey then parkerized look. Do they have color swatches? Other then that idk how you can tell with out buying.

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...magpul FDE my arse! cough.... duracoat...ahem.. s'cuse me.

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Old March 1st, 2013, 08:56 PM   #5
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I think i recall that sniper grey being more of a grey then parkerized look. Do they have color swatches? Other then that idk how you can tell with out buying.
That's kinda why I was asking here if anyone had personal experience with it. I know what you mean about "Sniper Grey" though......if there was one that was just a c-hair darker (like not much at all).

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Yeah its a grey grey if that makes any sense at all. I havent played with it yet, can you mix the color before the hardener is added, a dab of black would put it right on.

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...magpul FDE my arse! cough.... duracoat...ahem.. s'cuse me.
LOL! I here ya! Their FDE is a farce. Now they DO have other colors that will more closely match it but they aren't labeled FDE.

My buddy is a gunsmith (retired SF SgtMaj) and went to the Lauer Duracoat course in Wisconsin. He has the whole setup to include the oven. Early on we thought Duracoat's "Parkerized" color was just a tad too light. Then he did something in "Colt Gray" and I was like "That's it!" Since then anything he's done to mimic a parkerized look has been with "Colt Gray".

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Old March 1st, 2013, 09:06 PM   #8
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Yeah its a grey grey if that makes any sense at all. I havent played with it yet, can you mix the color before the hardener is added, a dab of black would put it right on.
I'd ASSume you can do that with Cerakote (you can with Duracoat). Only thing is that if it's anything like Duracoat that "dab" would have to be just that......it's easy to overestimate how much you need and then you've screwed up a whole batch.

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Old March 1st, 2013, 09:09 PM   #9
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I'm experimenting with Cerakote now. I never used it before. Most of the colors I have been using dry a totally different color than they are in liquid form. My concern is the durability. I'm testing it on mags prior to coating any of the important stuff. I have melted some AR stocks while finding the optimum cure temperature.
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I wish I had know this sooner. I finished a guys enfield in the duracoat parkerized. It was a bit light, if I had know then I would have gone with colt gray. He was thrilled with it, TRU oil stock finish and duracoat park gray, looked good for a WW2 that came back from the sand box and was probally there since the war.

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With Duracoat, I am going to mix tactical black and tactical green-gray to try and duplicate a parkerized finish.

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With Duracoat, I am going to mix tactical black and tactical green-gray to try and duplicate a parkerized finish.
Seriously, try Colt Gray. I speak from experience! It more mimics zinc phosphate as opposed to manganese phosphate though, both of which were mil-spec for the M14.

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Haven't tried Durakote but but I like Cerakote a great deal. I've use it on a number of AK builds and it seems to be some pretty tough stuff. I'm surprised they don't market a "Faux Park" color but I have been experimenting with mixing the standard colors for the Parkerize effect. I did a buddys M24 clone with a 6 to1, Sniper Grey/Graphite black and he was well pleased but I think it might be still better if I add a little OD Green in there. Unfortunately, no pics of that but these are of a Taurus 1911 against different backgrounds with a Graphite Black slide and Sniper Grey on the frame. Mags are different, SG on the mossy log and GB on the shop towel. I did some Garand gas cylinders in the 6/1 mix, I'll try to get some pics of those with some parked parts. HTH



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Why don't you order some of their free swatches? I'd recommend these:
H-210Q
H-227Q
H-234Q
H-237Q

You can compare them under different light. You can compare them to any examples of colors your trying to match. I think one of the above will show you how close they can get. Remember Parkerizing colors tend to shift all over the place even from batches of the same mix.

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...magpul FDE my arse! cough.... duracoat...ahem.. s'cuse me.

How the color actually comes out depends on a few variables. Surface treatment of said metal (blast abrasive size, PSI and material), application method and how much material is put down and curing temps all affect the end surface color and durability.

I have used quite a few from Durakote, Gunkote, moly-resin, KG gunkote and just started using Cerakote becasue my PTR-91 needs a new durable finish.

The best advice is to "test it" but colors are pretty accurate if the application directions are followed by the manufacturer.

All of them FAR surpasses a parked finish for rust durability.
The picture does not show it the best but my top rifle has John Norell's moly resin on it. As trouble free and nice looking as it gets. The bottom one is standard parked.


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