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Old September 28th, 2012, 09:00 AM   #1
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'83 vintage M1A question

So I picked up a 9/83 made Springfield armory inc. receiver.
Never built. SN #026803

Anybody have an idea of how they would have built it back then?
All GI?
Matching?
Mixed GI and commercial?

Is the receiver good to go out of the box or would it need some tuning?

Any info would help. My experience only goes back to early 90's

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Old September 28th, 2012, 09:08 AM   #2
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Receiver from then should be good to go unless it's one with that shelf at the woodline that has to be milled off or the stock modified for it. It doesn't hurt to polish the friction and bedding surfaces. All USGI other than the receiver (and barrel, at your choice) would be consistent with 9/83.

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Sounds good. I've got an HR kit with a SAK NM barrel for it

Not sure on the shelf. It should arrive early next week.
I'm thinking I'd might be just before they stopped. Should be easy enough to modify a stock

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Sounds good. I've got an HR kit with a SAK NM barrel for it

Not sure on the shelf. It should arrive early next week.
I'm thinking I'd might be just before they stopped. Should be easy enough to modify a stock

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That sounds just fine. SAI used a lot of G.I. barrels during that time period.
BTW they marked many of the barrels with "Geneseo" near the chamber.


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It will have the shelve on the receiver bottom,easy fix either mill it off or inlet the stock,these receivers were not the best as far as SAI receivers go,the best came when all final design changes and maching was at its best starting around the 42K range.

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M1A rifle made during that time frame were assembled with any variety of parts, GI and commercial. If it does have the protruding rail along the bottom right side behind the receiver leg it will require the stock to be modified so the receiver fits flush at the rear. Some M1A rifles of this period were built with all GI parts as collectors models.All barrels were marked Geneseo, Ill. Commercial stocks were made by Bishop at that time.

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The one off ar15.com--I got on there 5 minutes after you. Glad somebody here got it.

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Thanks Guys,

Kind of what I was thinking, not concerned with the Geneseo markings, I'm just looking for period correct,
I Have an SAK NM barrel and all other H&R parts so it should be fine.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that the big influx of USGI imported parts came in around 40xxx, but I suppose there would have been enough still around.

on the Geneseo markings,
I have an 89xxx and a 168xxx that have them,
the 89xxx was sold to me as a "rifle that someone put an H&R bolt in", turned out the guy was thinking it should have been a springfield bolt and didn't know what the markings meant enough to figure out it was an earlier all USGI rifle, $1100.00, I didn't mention it to him,

the other was sold as a bare receiver and sent back for an SAK barrel and all TRW parts, by the original owner, almost as cheap


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So I picked up a 9/83 made Springfield armory inc. receiver.
Never built. SN #026803

Anybody have an idea of how they would have built it back then?
All GI?
Matching?
Mixed GI and commercial?

Is the receiver good to go out of the box or would it need some tuning?
In 1983, SA, Inc. was using a mix of USGI and commercial M14/M1A parts to build rifles. The firm has issued many "Collector Edition" rifles through the years but the first one was not issued until 1984, model number MA9101. Yes, the receiver is fine but as always, the builder must check for proper bolt fitment and barrel headspacing.

References: a) SA, Inc. catalog for 1981-83 b) SA, Inc. catalog for 1984-85 c) SA, Inc. Dealer Price List 1983 d) SA, Inc. Dealer Price List 1984.

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The firm has issued many "Collector Edition" rifles through the years but the first one was not issued until 1984, model number MA9101.
By Collector Edition do you mean like IDF, and WF? Or something else? Is it a long list? Just wondering and thanks in advance.

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By Collector Edition do you mean like IDF, and WF? Or something else? Is it a long list? Just wondering and thanks in advance.
The IDF, WF, Camp Perry, etc. models were limited run production items. There were six "Collector Edition" M1A models produced between 1984 and 2006, each with its own catalog number, i.e., MA9101. SA, Inc. has issued at least 140 M1A models (catalog numbers) if you include the Texas era. I have the catalog numbers listed along with a description and years issued for each in a .xls file. That information is also in more recent iterations of the tome aka M14 Rifle History and Development.

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Here's the end result
SAK NM front end (thanks Art)
Nearly all Winchester, just need a Winchester Trigger Group and Rear Sight

This was a never built receiver with the shelf on the bottom but fit a GI Fiberglass stock like a dream, went together smoothly with no issues






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Dam that turned out real nice YardDogOne. Thanks for sharing.

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