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Old August 24th, 2012, 06:41 PM   #1
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Recoil less stock

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Tried to post this in the rifle stock section but the page said invalid request.
So here goes, I can't shoot the bigger caliber's because of a bad shoulder. I was building a M1A but sold all my part's when I found out I couldn't shoot it.
I was sitting here thinking and came up with an ideal for a stock that would eleminate recoil or all most eleminate it.
I will start building up part's again to build me another M1A and while I am doing that I think I will start on my ideal.
Will let you guy's know how it works out. It will probally take me a year or two to finish everything and gather up the part's.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 06:47 PM   #2
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http://www.nokick.com/Recoil_Reducer/27.htm

I don't know what you've got in mind but have you considered what is offered on the above site?

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Old August 24th, 2012, 06:54 PM   #3
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Not what I was thinking of but interesting. When I get my parts together I think I will order one and see how it work's.
I will still try out my ideal and see how it work's out anyway.
I am retired and have a lot of time on my hand's.
If my ideal doesn't work and there recoil reducer's don't work out for me I will have another bunch of part's for sale.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 06:59 PM   #4
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Get something like the blackfeather and then get a Knoxx(black hawk) stock for it.

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Old August 24th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #5
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Can you shoot a .243 pain-free? Reason I ask, SAI used to offer a .243 barrel option for the M1A. If you wrote to them explaining your injury and your needs, they might still hae one of those .243 barrels.

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Old August 24th, 2012, 07:23 PM   #6
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Well, if your idea doesn't pan out...

have you thought of learning how to shoot weak handed?

I learned how to do that with pistol shooting IPSC and it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. My 2c.

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Old August 24th, 2012, 07:32 PM   #7
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I have arthritis in both shoulder's. I can shoot with either hand.
I was a left hander as a kid but the teacher's used to tape up my left hand so I would use my right only.
It helped as I could shoot with both hand's and didn't have to use a left hand rifle in the army.
If I was just left handed then I would have never been a sniper in the army.
I don't know if I could shoot the .243 as I have never shot one and don't know anyone around here that has one but will ask around.
I am building a 300 Blackout on the ar platform and should have it finished in a week or 3 and if I can shoot the 300 then I should be able to shoot the .243.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 08:17 PM   #8
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greg i told you about the Sage mod 0 being a pain free setup. I still think that would work out for you.

I looked it up and the recoil pad it uses is the Pachmyer Decelerator.

they make a slip on.
http://www.amazon.com/Pachmayr-Decel.../dp/B00542J1PO

now i do not know if its just the decelerator that allows me to shoot my sage all day, but not my mauser. The chassis weight may help stop some of that recoil as well.. I suggest you try these pads, they are well designed and have a gel in them i think, its ALOT more than just a piece of rubber.

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I have arthritis in both shoulder's. I can shoot with either hand.
I was a left hander as a kid but the teacher's used to tape up my left hand so I would use my right only.
It helped as I could shoot with both hand's and didn't have to use a left hand rifle in the army.
If I was just left handed then I would have never been a sniper in the army.
I don't know if I could shoot the .243 as I have never shot one and don't know anyone around here that has one but will ask around.
I am building a 300 Blackout on the ar platform and should have it finished in a week or 3 and if I can shoot the 300 then I should be able to shoot the .243.
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Contact Dave Sullivan of Westwind Rifles Erie, Colorado, he can turn/chamber a barrel blank into a 14 or M1 barrel. I am thinking a faster twist 22-250 to shoot 60-80 grain slugs in a 14 would be easier to handle. Often times when Krieger gets an order for the 14 or M1 in cartridge other than 08 or 06, they sub out the work to Dave.

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Old August 24th, 2012, 08:33 PM   #10
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Hi Dredsen
They only reason I didn't go with the Sage was the cost. Even used one's are going for 6 to 7 hundred dollar's.
I think if I go ahead and build another M1A I will try the sage stock with the pad and see how it work's.
I would like to try one before spending that much money. I wonder if rent a center would rent me one?
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Old August 24th, 2012, 09:17 PM   #11
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Going with a .243 is a good option. But if your wanting to stay with a .308, there are many recoil reducing options out there. If you had a wood stock, you could put some hydraulic recoil dampners in the two storages holes under the buttplate. You could also remove the buttplate and also use the no kick or a recoil pad, along with the hydraulics. I've shot rifles with the hydraulic reducers and they work really well. There are other options out there that could help you. I would recommend doing more research and find out everything that's available to you, before settling on what your purchase will be.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 12:38 AM   #12
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Just some additional thoughts for recoil reduction, I don't know what all you've tried together but every idea together might make it more bearable.

You could build an M1A in .243 Win, and handload it down, reduced power loads.
Try the J.A.E.-100 stock with every option, it's heavier and may absorb a bit of additional recoil.
Adding a steel scope mount, large scope, and bipod, making additional weight.
The large JP/Delta brake is supposed to be pretty effective at cutting recoil.
The Schuster gas plug slightly reduces recoil, just a bit.
A quality shooting jacket with thick shoulder pad.

I'm assuming you are shooting from a bench. Hope these suggestions help, good luck!
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Old August 25th, 2012, 01:02 AM   #13
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I have a Remington 870 12 gauge that I've modified quite extensively and somehow increased the felt recoil even though I kept the factory stock! I got one of the "Limbsaver" slip-on pads (available at WalMart) and couldn't believe the reduction in felt recoil! It now "feels" softer than my M-1A in a standard stock. See if someone nearby has a .308 semi-auto and try one of those to see how they feel to you.

Sometimes something simple works best.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 01:16 AM   #14
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If you shoot from a bench you can do anything. Hang a bucket of sand from the barrel. Okay, maybe not anything. But the heavier you make the gun the less recoil. If you plan on standing or carrying it around of course, this isn't doable.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 08:51 AM   #15
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Adding some leadshot too the stock wells, shooting bullets in 110-130gr weights will feel like your shooting a Ar/15. You can also add a foam recoil pad from a Bush/Scout rifle for some extra cushioning all for little money. If this isn't enough recoil reduction start looking at a compinsator, I myself wouldn't go the .243 rout for 2 reasons there expensive and they live a short life.

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