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Old June 14th, 2012, 07:54 PM   #16
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Century WAS headquartered in Montreal until the last spate of Canadian gun control. They never manufactured complete guns but they assembled a lot from parts .They were the biggest surplus firearms dealer in Canada for 3 decades.

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Old June 14th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #17
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Interesting ... I found one for sale and had never heard of Century Arms for M14 type rifles ... hence my post/questions. Now I'm reading some saying they're crap and others saying they're good ... hmmm this one is a complete rifle according to the seller and they're looking for approx $700 CDN.

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Old June 16th, 2012, 06:22 PM   #18
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Old June 16th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #19
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Interesting ... I found one for sale and had never heard of Century Arms for M14 type rifles ... hence my post/questions. Now I'm reading some saying they're crap and others saying they're good ... hmmm this one is a complete rifle according to the seller and they're looking for approx $700 CDN.

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Here is the straight skinny:

The receiver is very good and is forged not cast and that is excellent. The barrel is a good and is chrome lined and it is a good barrel. The op rod is good and is also forged. This rifle would make the basis for a good M14 project but everything else on it is questionable but probably usable, for a while.

For example the gas tube assembly is chrome molly steel and not blackened stainless steel as on the USGI M-14 rifle. The Chinese gas tube assembly will work but the quality and materials used in its construction is not up to snuff.

The rear sight is a piece of crap and the trigger assembly should have the hammer, trigger as well as the hammer and trigger pins replaced because they tend to be soft.

The rifle can be salvaged but it will require a little effort and some additional money.

The stock is also a piece of crap and should be replaced with USGI as well.

What I do on my Chicom M-14s is to replace everything but the receiver, barrel and op rod with USGI parts. But once you are finished, you will have an excellent example of a commercial M-14. Before you start, have the head space checked and make sure that it's within 7.62 NATO specs (NOT .308 Winchester) if the head space is ok they you can shoot your rifle with 7.62 NATO ammo (ONLY) until you can get around to changing your bolt over to USGI or a good commercial M14 bolt. But keep an eye on your head space over time and make sure that it remains with 7.62 NATO specs due to the factory bolt being too soft.

The factory barrels are really quite accurate, but when they're finally shot out I will replace them with Criterion 22" chrome lined GI profile barrels that I've already bought and have laying on the shelf in my shop.

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Century M14's were Norinco... Most Century-imported Chinese weapons were typical of all Chinese weapons: robust and reliable. And imported whole (thus preserving this trait). Where Century earned its somewhat dubious reputation was their assembly or manufacturing of weapons (FAL's with Hesse receivers, eastern block AKM's, etc). Usually due to inconsistent quality in assembly or outright poor products (bad receivers, canted sights, etc).

I'm not a big fan of Chinese weapons for personal reasons, but I have to admit that they work. And very well at that.
I will be the first to admit that CAI made some out and out junk but I did get quite lucky on a Hesse receiver built FAL that is a real joy to shoot and man is it accurate. I've come to the conclusion that it's not so much the parts that were to blame, it was who ever was assembling them that day as to whether they are good or not.

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I take it from your post that you cannot shoot off the shelf .308 Win ammo?

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I have two heel stamped Century Arms International Polytech M-14/S rifles imported by Kengs Atl Ga. The underside of both their barrels are lightly stamped CAI and both serial numbers are under 1,000. I also have an IDE Mich Imports Polytech M-14 serial range 7,000. The only difference is that the IDE Polytech is stamped on the left side of the receiver and the earlier CAI Kengs Atl Ga are stamped on the heel of their receiver just like M-14's should be. The wood on the later IDE Mich Imports Poly is Manchurian Walnut and looks much better than the cheesy Chu Wood stocks on the older Keng's Polys and are the first thing that I replaced on my two heel stamped Polys with USGI M-14 stocks. There is a premium for heel stamped Polytechs these days over the more abundant side stamped models.

The receivers of the Chinese M-14's are forged steel, with excellent metallurgy and the correct dimensions for an M-14 rifle. They also have good chrome lined GI profile barrels and good one piece forged op rods, unlike the commercially cast op rods SAI is using these days. The Polytech M-14's are far closer than any of the other commercial M14 receivers available when it comes to being right dimensionally. The jury is still out on the LRB forged receivers when it comes to dimensions but I haven't heard any negatives about them. History shows that the rest of the commercial M-14's can be problematic at times when it comes to dimensions.

The forged receiver Polytechs make the platform for a fine project rifle if one wishes to change out everything except the receiver, op rod and barrel. The barrel on the Polytechs is on par with the USGI M-14 when it comes to accuracy and is chrome lined as well. The op rod is one piece, forged steel just like the USGI TRW op rods. The other three of the US Governments manufacturers building M-14's used two piece welded op rods.

Back in the late 80s and early 90s the Polytechs were a bit more expensive than the less well put together and rougher finished Nornico's but they were both real bargains. Their prices have risen considerably due to there only being a finite number of them in this country and there won't be any more due to governmental stupidity.

I recently paid $975.00 for my brand new old stock side stamped IDE Mich Imports Poly and I was glad to get it at that price. For my purposes and requirements, which means a real forged receiver, 22 inch chrome lined GI profile barrel and a good forged op rod, the Polytechs are still phenomenal buys even at today's prices. A knowledgeable, talented, M-14/S owner can change out the suspect parts in their M-14/S with USGI parts and end up with a far superior M-14 clone to anything Springfield Inc is turning out these days.

I am not all that hot on the older, rougher finished Nornico M-14's either but I would buy one for a rebuild if I could get a real deal on it. The only problem these days is that USGI M-14 parts are no longer cheap and abundant at gun shows like they were 30+ years ago. The days of finding a cheap Polytech M-14 in a pawn shop or gun show and getting it for $400.00 or even less as I have done are now long gone.

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I just checked my heel marked poly and it has the very faint CAI mark on the underside of the barrel. Itsports one of the best m14 clone receivers I have ever owned and on par with LRB. I would buy another one in the same serial number range in a heartbeat. I havent had such luck with the later side marked polytechs and have found the locking lugs on those receivers to be way undercut and a GI bolt wont even start to close requiring ridiculous amounts of lapping to headspace. its a shame they didnt cut the lugs better because thats really the only major flaw I have found with them

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I'm not a big fan of Chinese weapons for personal reasons, but I have to admit that they work. And very well at that.
I agree. Hell, having an oprod track already gives them a leg up on a certain M14 manufacturer in Ohio.

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I will be the first to admit that CAI made some out and out junk but I did get quite lucky on a Hesse receiver built FAL that is a real joy to shoot and man is it accurate. I've come to the conclusion that it's not so much the parts that were to blame, it was who ever was assembling them that day as to whether they are good or not.
Have one of these Fal's from century the parts on the rifle are of good quality, however it was assembled by a blind 3 fingered monkey, barrel wasn't indexed properly , the headspacing was way out of specs... Took me awhile to get the right combination of assembly tools & parts together and then have it checked out. after proper reassembly it turned out to great gun.. Could have been a Monday morn/Friday afternoon build, could have been minimum wage labor, At any rate there assembly on Fal's is suspect, So if you pick up a deal on something Century assembled , whatever "it" is, I would have "it" checked out before you fire "it" On the other hand I hate hearing they are history ,over the years Century imported a lot of nice rifles from all over at real cheap prices ...something we don't see much of anymore


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Did Century ever assemble any or strictly import?
I don't know anything about Century Arms M14s but they do assemble rifles there. I have a Century Arms .308 Sporter (CETME/G3) and an M1 Tanker, both from century.

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Did Century ever assemble any or strictly import?
Century Arms assembled and imported Chinese M14 rifles into the United States before 1994. The assembled rifles used Federal Ordnance, Inc. receivers. This work was likely done in the US. Century Arms also had a facility in Montreal, Quebec where it "sporterized" Chinese M14 rifles before shipment to the USA.

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