M14 Forum


What M14 is the Best?

This is a discussion on What M14 is the Best? within the The M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; For years I've been an M1 Garand shooter, but I think I want to get an M14 too. But I really want it to be ...


Go Back   M14 Forum > M14 M1A Forum > The M14


Like Tree10Thanks
Reply
 
LinkBack Moderator Tools Display Modes

Old April 27th, 2012, 09:50 AM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 8
What M14 is the Best?

For years I've been an M1 Garand shooter, but I think I want to get an M14 too. But I really want it to be as close to milspec as possible.

I heard Fulton Armory and Springfield use cast receivers, and I really want forged. I know cast is good, but it's just my preference.

LRB arms and Smith Enterprises make forged receiver models, but I can't find much information about them otherwise, and they seem to have gotten into the M14 game within the past 10 years.

Is LRB Arms good? Reliable, long lasting, and such?

Any other information I might find useful?

M1Rifle is offline  
Remove Ads
Old April 27th, 2012, 10:03 AM   #2
Grunt
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: North East
Posts: 96
You have opened a can of worms my friend! Much like yourself I started out and cut my teeth shooting milsurp rifles on the Garand. My father always talked about his beloved
M14 while at Paris Island. That spurred me on to pick one up. My first, which came only a few months ago is a pre-ban accurized Armscorp with all TRW parts and an original USGI ART II scope and Brookfield mount. I am not sure that rifle was ever fired until I put 2 mags thru it. My second I picked up off of this forum a few weeks back. It is an LRB with all TRW parts. You can definitely see a difference in the receivers. However, unless you get into metalurgical minutia you can't really tell there is a difference. Some will say that cast receivers have tollerance issues while the forged receivers don't. If you are using iron sights and the rifle is already built and is good to go, I doubt you will see any real difference there either. However, I suppose it depends upon what you intend to do with the rifle. If you are looking for a match rifle and are looking to shoot sub MOA, a forged receiver from LRB may be the way to go as they acutally forge them with front and rear lugs as opposed to adding them later. Either way these rifles are a heck of a lot of fun to shoot and are just as handsome as the Garand.

USCS03 is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 10:06 AM   #3
Lifer
 
Ted Brown's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Jacksonville, OR
Posts: 4,110

Awards Showcase

LRB Arms produces the best receivers available. Smith Enterprise receivers made in the late 1980s from bar stock were not hammer forged like LRB's, but were the best available at the time. SEI's current production receivers are similar to their older receivers, but have had some issues. I would suggest that any M14 type rifle built with GI or GI quality forged parts are acceptable. Cost is the biggest factor.

Ted Brown is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 10:10 AM   #4
Lifer
 
LausDeo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: The Last Best Place
Posts: 2,262
Can of worms indeed. LRB and 7.62mm Firearms make the only hammer forged commercial receivers in the US. Mine is a 7.62. Both are about as close to milspec as you can get. 7.62 uses TRW's blueprints, I don't know what LRB uses.

There's also the Polytechs, if you can find one. They're way cheaper and they're hammer forged, as well as also very close to mil spec, but you have to be willing to put a certain amount of research and effort into making it what you want. Plenty here are able to help you with that.

Welcome to the forum!

I'll hold back on opinions, and just say I have no regrets so far.

LausDeo is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 10:13 AM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 8
Quote:
You have opened a can of worms my friend! Much like yourself I started out and cut my teeth shooting milsurp rifles on the Garand. My father always talked about his beloved
M14 while at Paris Island. That spurred me on to pick one up. My first, which came only a few months ago is a pre-ban accurized Armscorp with all TRW parts and an original USGI ART II scope and Brookfield mount. I am not sure that rifle was ever fired until I put 2 mags thru it. My second I picked up off of this forum a few weeks back. It is an LRB with all TRW parts. You can definitely see a difference in the receivers. However, unless you get into metalurgical minutia you can't really tell there is a difference. Some will say that cast receivers have tollerance issues while the forged receivers don't. If you are using iron sights and the rifle is already built and is good to go, I doubt you will see any real difference there either. However, I suppose it depends upon what you intend to do with the rifle. If you are looking for a match rifle and are looking to shoot sub MOA, a forged receiver from LRB may be the way to go as they acutally forge them with front and rear lugs as opposed to adding them later. Either way these rifles are a heck of a lot of fun to shoot and are just as handsome as the Garand.



Haha I didn't mean to open a can of worms, I swear! And yes, I love my M1. It's by far my most favorite rifle (it's actually saved my life before, though not in a war ), but the M14 has been on my list for a long time and I finally have some extra money to buy one.

So it sounds like LRB is the way to go, huh? Thanks for the info!

M1Rifle is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #6
Lifer
 
Seventh Fleet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Dixie
Posts: 4,223
Right now what you need even more than a forged receiver is knowledge and you've come to the right place to learn what you need to know about our beloved M-14 before you get started. Welcome aboard our M-14 community.

7th

Seventh Fleet is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 10:36 AM   #7
Rifleman
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Arizona
Posts: 41
This is an interesting discussion. I bought a M1 Garand a few years ago to start shooting CMP and other High Power shooting matches. I love me Garand. This new hobby became an obsession like other hobbies. Being an old former Marine, I was issued an M-14 in boot camp and Infantry training school. Last year, after allot of research, I bought a loaded Springfield M1A which I could afford. I did OK at the 2011 Creedmoor matches in Phoenix AZ last year. I did more research and I wanted more out of my M1A so I went to the Shot Show in Las Vegas and talked directly to a few of the M14/M1A guys. Phil Arrington did a complete metamorphous on my rifle. Now I have a Super Match rifle that I’m very, very happy with.
In the end, it’s what you want to do with your rifle and how much money you want to invest. I’m new to competitive shooting but I’m hooked on the sport.
Let the rest of us know what you decide to do and don’t forget to send pictures.

AZKimber1911 is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 11:20 AM   #8
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 8
Quote:
Right now what you need even more than a forged receiver is knowledge and you've come to the right place to learn what you need to know about our beloved M-14 before you get started. Welcome aboard our M-14 community.
Thank you! I hope to learn a lot.

Quote:
This is an interesting discussion. I bought a M1 Garand a few years ago to start shooting CMP and other High Power shooting matches. I love me Garand. This new hobby became an obsession like other hobbies. Being an old former Marine, I was issued an M-14 in boot camp and Infantry training school. Last year, after allot of research, I bought a loaded Springfield M1A which I could afford. I did OK at the 2011 Creedmoor matches in Phoenix AZ last year. I did more research and I wanted more out of my M1A so I went to the Shot Show in Las Vegas and talked directly to a few of the M14/M1A guys. Phil Arrington did a complete metamorphous on my rifle. Now I have a Super Match rifle that Iím very, very happy with.
In the end, itís what you want to do with your rifle and how much money you want to invest. Iím new to competitive shooting but Iím hooked on the sport.
Let the rest of us know what you decide to do and donít forget to send pictures.
Don't worry, when I decide what to do I'll certainly be posting pictures! I feel like I'm fixing to be a dad!

M1Rifle is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 11:27 AM   #9
Dodgin' The Reaper
 
hammonje's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Lilburn, GA
Posts: 7,059
I go SAI for the warranty. No issues on my end. Can get them for about $400 at Camp Perry.

hammonje is online now  
Old April 27th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #10
In the gilded Halls of Valhalla
 
Dredsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 11,630
I also went with SAI , and am pleased that i have a life warranty.

My next build will be Smith enterprise, IMHO thats the closest you can get to mil spec. Thats just my opinion though.

A SEI action is just what my mk14 EBR needs to be more authentic.

Dredsen is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 12:15 PM   #11
Old Salt
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Buckeye State
Posts: 1,341
A simular question was asked here a few months back, you might get a few insights from it:

How to get a USGI M14 today?

Welcome to the madness!

Deacon is online now  
Old April 27th, 2012, 12:22 PM   #12
Platoon Commander
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 541
Not to be picky, but I've got an LRB rear lugged M25 receiver and I think the above poster is mistaken. I don't think that there are any lugged receivers, single or double that are made with the lugs as part of the original forging/casting. I'm pretty sure that all the lugs are welded on. I'm not even sure how you'd go about doing the machine work on the bottom of the receiver if the lugs were part of the rough casting/forging. It would certainly make it far more complicated to produce. Perhaps one of the more knowledgable members can confirm this one way or the other.

Jgun is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 12:34 PM   #13
Lifer
 
lord of war619's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: maricopa,az
Posts: 2,795

Awards Showcase

without question or discussion the best m14 is a original usgi m14, but most of us dont have $20,000 unless i sell all 3 and get 1, the best m14 is the one the fits your needs and your wallet the best

Thanks from cachunk
lord of war619 is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 12:46 PM   #14
Platoon Sergeant
 
PhrogRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: California Dreamin'
Posts: 396
The best one is the one in my hands, along with lots of ammo.

Thanks from cachunk and Hiram325
PhrogRider is offline  
Old April 27th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 8
Quote:
A simular question was asked here a few months back, you might get a few insights from it:

How to get a USGI M14 today?

Welcome to the madness!

Yes, that did give a few insights. Thanks!

I saw something in there about 7.62mm Firearms (a company) that makes forged m14 receivers and that they have a life time warranty. Is this true? I'll certainly look for more info. And are they as good as LRB Arms supposedly is? Any reported problems with them?

M1Rifle is offline  
Reply

  M14 Forum > M14 M1A Forum > The M14



Search tags for this page
best m 14
,
best m-14
,

best m14

,
best m14 receiver
,
best m14 rifle
,
m 14 rifle what is the best one
,

m14

,
m14 best
,
top m14 rifle
,
who builds the best m14? 2014
,
who makes best m14
,
who makes the best m14
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Moderator Tools
Display Modes


Similar M14 Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Information on M14 Magazines Different Reference 14 January 17th, 2014 10:47 AM
Basic Tools for the M14 builder brycom1 Gunsmithing 22 June 24th, 2011 11:59 AM
TRW bolt question Hojji1 The M14 17 February 8th, 2011 04:53 AM
The M14 in the Arts and Entertainment Different Hollywood 4 October 2nd, 2005 08:28 AM
Historical firsts in M14 history Different The M14 3 March 2nd, 2005 02:25 PM



Top Gun Sites Top Sites List