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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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just bought demilled H&R M14. now what?

Howdy all. I just bought a 1 cut demilled M14 receiver. My question is: Can this receiver be made legal? and do I want to?

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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #2
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I think it can be used to hold papers down on your desk or as a display. If you made it work you made a machine gun.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #3
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NO. BIG NO,, It's only good for a paperweight.And actually,by the letter of the law,a one cut demil is illegal.There are supposed to be 3 torch cuts displacing 3/8ths of an inch of material with each cut. Now,,BEFORE everyone jumps on me about this info,I had the opportunity to buy a 1 "saw cut" receiver back in 1989.I took pics of the 2 halves and wrote a letter to ATF.Their reply came back after about 6 months or so and included that written info above and a mimeograph copy picture of what they consider properly demilled.You end up with a total of 5 small pieces as the cuts were diagonal.I had also asked "what if" I remove the 3rd leg,,,answer NO GO,also asked "what if" just to make a dummy gun,answer NO GO as a 1 cut was not a proper demil.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #4
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It is just a novelty and a relic. If it still has the bolt lock on it and it wasn't destroyed by Captain Crunch when they destroyed it, you have three parts you can use on an M-14 project.

The bolt lock, its pin and spring.

Other than that, like someone already mentioned it would make a great paper weight. It's also a memento of just how stupid our inept government actually is for turning something of such great historical value and military usefulness, into nothing but worthless junk scrap metal.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #5
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I bid on that same one but was maxed out at 300. for 200 more you coulda got an lrb 14sa receiver .it looks like itd be a good display piece and for reference thats why i wanted it. legalities aside its nearly impossible to make it into a sound in spec receiver after being cut especially with a torch like that one was.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 06:46 PM   #6
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He can use it for sinker as well.

How much did buy that paper weight?

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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:00 PM   #7
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He can use it for sinker as well.

How much did buy that paper weight?
well my bid was half of what it sold for. i was actually hopin to get out bid even at 300 but i did really want it

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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:24 PM   #8
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$600 for a demilled receiver? WHY? You can get the rear half for $30 and will serve as just a good a paperweight.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:28 PM   #9
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Were just kidding around, those paper weights are around $30-45 depending were you buy it.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 07:48 PM   #10
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I used to have that bug bad to reactivate one. i really looked into it and studied welding but found that the metalurgy of a reactivated one even if it was legal would be questionable even if it was done really good and sent off to be stress releved and re heat treated and thats if you could find the right companies to contract those services which arent cheap by any means and those companies usually do lot treatments for big machine shops and dont deal with small one time projects. it could be made to work but after all that expense a commercial forged receiver would be a much better route

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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #11
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removed quote as material was an ROE violation. -Met
i'm a newb to m14/m1a's also, and i hate to say this, but this post reflects badly on gun owners.

i think the atf is all kinds of stupid also, but until it's gone, we have to deal with the bullsh1t.

like the romy g ak-47 kits with the barrels they were originally made with.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:02 PM   #12
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You are the one who asked the questions, if you don't like the answers check with ATF. Even if it doesn't apply to other guns you've worked with, it does with this one. There are no recent legal builds allowed by ATF from either demilled or deactivated (removal or welding of the full auto appendage). It's just not worth it.

You're new here, how about a more civilized response to those you don't particularly agree with.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:19 PM   #13
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Of all the people to say that to...

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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:24 PM   #14
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From what I've read all of the re-welds that were done legally were snatched back up by the ATF.

Some members here were a part of it. Just waiting for one to chime in.



And I don't think you got Cav's joke......Take him with a grain of salt.

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Old March 15th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #15
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OK at one point there was a builder that got a permit to build on 14 halves. Then tha ATF changed to no go period. Once a machine gun alwas a machine gun. If you can get a go ahead good for.

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