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February 19th, 2012, 10:36 AM
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#16 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pensacola, Fl
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This is the same as 1911, even name brand manufacturers use MIMS parts, to keep the prices down, which is why top end Wilson, LB, EB, et al, are thousands more. Compare a SAI to a LBR.
SAI is still a commercial manufacturer, but luckily USGI and forged parts are available.
IMO, with the 1911, a revolver, a AR or this, if the gun is for weekend plunking and occasional hunting, then will the MIMS parts work? Probably, for a long time, but if you have to carry and use ANY of those guns on a daily basis, in frequent shootings and trust your life to them, then it behooves you to have a solid weapon, with solid parts, built solid. Sure, all parts wear out and break, but some last ALOT longer than others.
I've been competing in the IDPA and 3 gun for over 10 yrs now and I know the value of good parts in a good gun.
The extactor is one of the first things to get replaced.
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February 19th, 2012, 10:41 AM
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#17 | | Lifer
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So. Cal
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Originally Posted by leadbug  Why does SAI continue to use this CRAP on their rifles? It's pretty ridiculous, and exactly why I will not buy their products. | They call their extractors an improvement since the detent hole is deeper so the extractor can't just pop out. Can't disassemble the bolt without breaking the extractor plunger either. I won't own a gun I can't work on without breaking a part because of a known defect.
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February 19th, 2012, 10:42 AM
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#18 | | Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Oregon
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| Thanks guys, I am well aware of the reasons, I just like to gripe in a rhetorical way. 
I guess there has to be a quality level for all consumers. I just happen to be a financially poor guy that insists on the highest quality stuff, and thus, a longer wait in saving for things I prefer (and that are much more worth the money).
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February 19th, 2012, 10:44 AM
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#19 | | Lifer
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: So. Cal
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Originally Posted by leadbug I guess there has to be a quality level for all consumers. I just happen to be a financially poor guy that insists on the highest quality stuff, and thus, a longer wait in saving for things I prefer (and that are much more worth the money). | Amen brother.
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February 19th, 2012, 12:12 PM
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#20 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: The Last Best Place
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Originally Posted by leadbug I just happen to be a financially poor guy that insists on the highest quality stuff, and thus, a longer wait in saving for things I prefer (and that are much more worth the money). | Some call it a curse... I call it strategy :P
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February 19th, 2012, 12:54 PM
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#21 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dixie
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I bought two of the Beretta Garand extractors to have in my M-14 parts bin as spare parts. I just wish now that I'd bought more of them since I'm now up to four M-14 clones. Does anybody know if they're still available, if so whose got them these days and please provide a link if you have it?
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February 19th, 2012, 02:03 PM
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#22 | | Lifer
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lilburn, GA
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Originally Posted by Gus Fisher They were made in Italy BUT they were made to USGI specs for the M1 Garand. Many people don't know that or won't have non US made parts in their rifles. Normally work with little or no fitting, but just make sure they don't stick below the bottom surface of the bolt. If so, then you have to grind the post upwards a bit. | They don't stick out one bit from either M14/M1A or M1 Garand bolts. I bought 50+ of them and use them in all my rifles.I got them for $7/each. I have shot 1k rounds through a rifle and the extractor still looks NOS. I find them superior to the USGI ones and they're cheaper. Kind of a no brainer.
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February 19th, 2012, 02:26 PM
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#23 | | Lifer
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Lilburn, GA
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Originally Posted by Seventh Fleet I bought two of the Beretta Garand extractors to have in my M-14 parts bin as spare parts. I just wish now that I'd bought more of them since I'm now up to four M-14 clones. Does anybody know if they're still available, if so whose got them these days and please provide a link if you have it?
7th | https://www.standardpartsllc.com/pro...&idcategory=31
They're you go.
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February 19th, 2012, 07:59 PM
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#24 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Lakewood, WA
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Originally Posted by 54321 Link to the tonyben video?
I never thought I would have to change my extractor either. I better study up just in case. | Keep in mind that the issue is controlling the ejector spring which can go flying across the room if not handled correctly. And of course it is interesting that the entire bolt assembly fits together like a Chinese puzzle, locked together by the extractor. There is a special bolt assembly tool for this job. The use of the 30.06 case as shown in Tonyben's video obviates the use of that special tool, such that a mere mortal like myself can do this.
This should be the link to Tonyben's Assembly Vid part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=hiXtz_42dI8
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February 20th, 2012, 06:35 PM
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#25 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA
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I want to thank Sixplus1 for bringing this topic up and Hamonoje for the reference to get these extractors (bought four). In a firefight this sort of thing can ruin your day. Never would have thunk it.
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February 20th, 2012, 06:52 PM
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#26 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Pensacola, Fl
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Originally Posted by BlackArrow I want to thank Sixplus1 for bringing this topic up and Hamonoje for the reference to get these extractors (bought four). In a firefight this sort of thing can ruin your day. Never would have thunk it. | Yep, I bought 2 and a USGI hammer.
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