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Old June 24th, 2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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Norinco M14

New to this site, and just sent off my cmp kit to 7.62mm for build, but have been a long time M1, and AR platform guy. But my question is about a, I think Norinco M14 that my dad got in a trade along time ago. We never shot it because we were not sure of quality, and it had a very loose flash hider, that didn't look original, i am guessing that it was because the Chinese gun is metric thread, and if that is so does someone make a flash hider that will thread correctly.. Also what, if anything do i need to do to get this rifle in shooting condition.
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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:09 PM   #2
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The metric threads should not affect the tightness. If it is loose, it sounds like the nut has not been tightened enough.

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Old June 24th, 2011, 12:49 PM   #3
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so if it is SAE on the flash hider and metric on the barrel I should tighten it down and strip the threads? Its obvious that it is not the original fake flash hider, is the threads on the barrel metric??

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Old June 24th, 2011, 01:25 PM   #4
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The flash suppressor doesn't thread on. The FS slips on and the nut tightens it into place. One can take the fake Polytech/Norinco/CHinese FS off and replace it with a USGI FS or a commercial muzzle brake and reuse the metric threaded nut.
Reportedly(I have not tried this, but have read it is possible), one can thread a USGI nut on a Chinese barrel. Or vice versa. The threads are similar enough, and the nuts soft enough, to take the barrel threads.

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Old June 24th, 2011, 01:46 PM   #5
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Where Are You Located In Alaska?

I Know It's A BIG State.......But I Think Like 90% Of The Population Lives In/Around The Anchorage Area !?

We Have Several Alaska Guys Here On The Forum...Perhaps If They Are Located Near You, They Might Be Willing To Contact You By 'PM' And Walk You Through Your Questions, Advise Of Any Competent Gunsmiths Up There, Etc...

Just A Thought...

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Old June 24th, 2011, 04:25 PM   #6
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Cavman: I am in North Pole Ak.. The Norinco rifle in question is in Ga. with my father.. When I started lurking around here and hearing positive things about the chinese rifles it peaked my interest knowing my dad had one in the back of his safe.. I do intend to buy another parts kit from cmp and intend to try a build myself and some knowledgable people in the area would sure be a big help

sailormilan: thanks for the help, I don't know if it has a GI nut on it, I just remeber it was loose and looked like someone didn't know what they were doing, and they had a bad rep for some problems( guessing soft bolt) so we deamed the rifle unsafe and intended to take it to a smith but never got around to it


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as far as soft bolts in the chinese guns, can I just buy another bolt from like 7.62mm, will it headspace?

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Caveman: I am in North Pole Ak.. The Norinco rifle in question is in Ga. with my father..
I'm in Georgia, what part of GA is your father in?

Having a USGI bolt conversion performed on this Norinco is excellent advice.
I have two Norinco and several Poly Tech and Smith Enterprise Inc. has Americanized all of them with TRW bolts.

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he is in Augusta, is the bolt change a drop in? Will it headspace?

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he is in Augusta, is the bolt change a drop in?
The bolt conversion is not a 'drop-in' mod, the bolt needs to be fitted by an experienced M14 armorer.

I'm in the Athens area and Augusta is just east of me.

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No M14/M1A is a drop-in for headspacing. It should be done by a competent person.

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I converted my Polytech M14s to USGI, put a TRW bolt, heavy barrel, etc on that thing, ROCK SOLID! Funny thing is, everyone in my gunshop where I work plays with it, and I am locked right by Parris Island, so I get a lot of Marines who remember shooting and caring M14's in the service (they dont know the difference!!!!)

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H2oman: my dad has some battle damage, that didn't bother him when he was younger, but it has caused him some trouble in his latter years, he doesn't shoot much anymore and generly only goes places when I come home and drive him, I was just down a couple months ago so it will be awhile till I get back, but when I do I will be lookin for someone to help with the rifle or point me in the direction of someone that can. I used to know a good smith in Thompson Ga. he was a Marine Corp distinguished marksman, and would be just the guy for this rifle but he was very old back then and I noticed about 5 years ago his shop was closed, so any help in the future would be appretiated. Thanks

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Surveillancemike: should I be looking for a barrel and bolt and do the switch that way?Maybe a GI parts kit to switch the whole thing over?? Is the only good thing on the rifle the receiver?

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Surveillancemike: should I be looking for a barrel and bolt and do the switch that way?Maybe a GI parts kit to switch the whole thing over?? Is the only good thing on the rifle the receiver?
This may help you, it is probably the single best documentation on the M14 system:
http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerd...n%20070603.pdf

The receiver, barrel, oprod, trigger group housing are very usable. Install complete rear sight group, complete USGI bolt group, bolt stop, trigger, hammer, complete gas system, flash hider, and all new springs. The new parts can be USGI or aftermarket from 7.62mm, SEI or similar manufacturer. I would not use any bolt except USGI at this time, there are some aftermarket bolts that look promising such as the 7.62mm bolt but I believe the jury is still out on the aftermarket bolts.
The barrels in my experience can shoot very well, the op rods are 1 piece forged, and the receivers are very well made.
If the pocket book allows buy all USGI parts, build a complete USGI rifle around the receiver and sell the Chinese parts kit to recover some of your money. I have done this with great success.

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