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Old May 30th, 2005, 06:40 AM   #1
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Stupid FNG Lubrication Question

Being relatively new to M14, I'd like to know the proper way to lubricate the rifle. I know that grease of some kind is involved somewhere but not sure exactly where. For oil where used, is CLP a good choice? Or Rem Oil? Where should lube be avoided?

I looked for a sticky or FAQ on this and didn't find one, sorry if this is commonly covered ground. Thanks.

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Old May 30th, 2005, 06:55 AM   #2
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From the soon-to-be available print version of M14 Rifle History and Development

"FM 23-8 specifies rifle grease should be applied at a number of contact points on the M14 as a part of normal maintenance: bolt locking recesses, the bolt camming lug on the hammer, operating rod camming surfaces, and the lip of the receiver that contacts the rear top edge of the bolt. As part of normal maintenance, M14 gunsmiths may also recommend a light film of rifle grease in 1) the operating rod channel 2) the operating rod saddle that contacts the barrel 3) the bolt roller 4) the receiver bolt raceway 5) between the top of the lip of the front band and the bottom of the stock ferrule 6) the inside of the cylindrical portion of the operating rod 7) the inside diameter of the operating rod guide 8 ) the operating rod spring guide 9) the bottom of the rear sight base and 10) sides of the rear sight aperture. Grease should be removed and reapplied yearly to prevent solidification. U. S. Army armorers applied MIL-G-10924D specification grease to M14 NM rifles. The official name of this grease is “Grease, automotive and artillery” and is commonly referred to as “GAA.”"

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Old May 30th, 2005, 06:57 AM   #3
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The only place I know of where oil is used on the M14 rifle is the trigger pin during assembly of the trigger group. If I'm incorrect, please correct me.

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Old May 30th, 2005, 07:07 AM   #4
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The only stupid question is the one you don't ask. Different's post kind of wrapped it up. If you ask a dozen people what the best grease is, you will get a half dozen answers. I think the most important thing is that you use it sparingly on the parts that need it and to clean off the old grease & re-apply it when your rifle gets dirty. The only place to avoid is the gas assembly. The G.A. needs to be run dry. Rem. oil or CLP is fine for a rust preventive coating on metal surfaces.

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Old May 30th, 2005, 10:40 AM   #5
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:lol: Snake45! There are NO Stupid Questions! If You dont Know Ask! ;)

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Old May 30th, 2005, 07:15 PM   #6
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I've been using TETRA gun grease ,you can buy at Walmart and this stuff is super slick.I use it in the bolt raceways on the locking lugs and the op rod slot and camming surface and on the op rod tube.There are other places it can be used to but these are the main spots.Brownells action lube is exellent as well.

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Old May 30th, 2005, 07:43 PM   #7
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Many thanks to all for the extremely helpful and specific replies. I have been shooting the Polytech completely dry up to this point mainly so I can check the wear patterns on the TRW bolt and make sure the lug engagement is as it should be. The bolt had fresh park on it when I started and it seems to be wearing in properly with good engagement (only 25 rounds fired through the gun this way in two shooting sessions) so I suppose it is about time to get some lube on the thing.

The Tetra Grease sounds good. I'll grab some next time I'm at Wally's (weekly).

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Old May 30th, 2005, 07:59 PM   #8
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half a drop of oil in firing pin hole

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Old May 31st, 2005, 01:02 PM   #9
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I carried the M14 daily for two years and never, ever saw grease used for lubrication -- although it's the specified lubricant for a few parts in the TM. There wasn't any made available for us to use. First time I saw grease used on the M14 was 20 years after I stopped carrying one every day.

We used nothing but LSA. I recall no problems at all with the rifles, to include winter in the North Georgia mountains.

Tetra grease is fine. GAA is gonna be messy.

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Old May 31st, 2005, 02:49 PM   #10
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My M1A and other guns run great on Tetra grease. It holds very well and is an excellent lubricant for firearms in most places and Tetra oil also for the places were oil is better, like the pins and smaller parts that are harder to get to. I sure wish I had some around when I in, the M16/M4's, SAW's and M240's might have ran alot better than they did sometimes.

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HA HA HA HA, gimme a break,,, WINTER! HO HO HO HE HE HAW HAW, Chuck, ya gotta be kidding me! Lemme stop laughing. I'm sure yer a smart gut Chuck and no disrespect intended but you guys in Georgia don't even know how to SPELL winter. Bring yer skis up here to Wyoming this next January or february and I'll show ya what cold really means. The only lube allowed on my rifles after about Halloween is LAW, "lubricant, arctic weather" Ask any of the folks who carried a Garand at Bastogne or Chosin and the answer will be unanimous. Be real careful around the firing pin. Shooting a full course biathlon will get things hot, throwing the rifle on yer back and skiing to the next firing point will cool it of quick and if it's snowing, you'll have ice on yer bolt. KABOOM!! Winter is a real good time to be sure the firing pin has some LAW on it, otherwise, I keep mine dry. Maybe some lsa or grease on yer extractor/plunger assy.

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Old June 4th, 2005, 07:35 AM   #12
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Who runs biathlon matches with .30 cal anymore?

I found a photo on this site a while ago that showed the grease points on an M-14. Don't recall where it is posted offhand, but if you search under lubrication it ought to pop up. Unfortunately it's too big to attach, but if you send me a PM with your email address, I'd be happy to send it.

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See the Link On M14 Lubrication!

Go to: http://www.nicolausassociates.com/free_stuff.htm

Scroll down to: "Points to Apply Rifle Grease on the M14 Rifle" & download the free JPEG picture.

To see the availability of M14 manuals, go to: http://www.nicolausassociates.com/m14.htm

I even carry readable copies of 'Special Text 7-179'.

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Old June 7th, 2005, 12:26 PM   #14
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Hey mods, I don't want to hijack this thread but I should respond to the inquiry about 30 cal biathlon. Basically, a few of us here in Laramie started skiing with our rifles so we could shoot when and where we wanted and it turned into a sorta friendly rivalry. We now call this "Assault Biathlon". Sanctioned biathlon races are all smallbore rimfire competitions with 22lr ammo. We just decided it would be more fun to add a tactical approach to it. Service rifles, 100, 200, 300, & 600 yard targets, land nav problems, winter survival. Skiing in the backcountry and shooting are both FUN!! I do intend to buy a nice camera after I have all the USGI parts I need for my next builds and I'll try to post some pictures next year. I'm having my left hip replaced soon and hopefully will be back on my "Fat Boys" for the ski season. Any forum members who are interested in this sport or would like to visit Wyoming feel free to pm me.

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