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Old July 16th, 2016, 10:47 AM   #16
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Brass tacks all over the stock ... one for each Buffalo you killed.
Notches cut in the comb ... one for each human adversary you killed.
Maybe hang a few scalps off the sling.

That ought to raise a few eyebrows at the range.
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Old July 16th, 2016, 10:56 AM   #17
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Spoke with Turnbull Restorations regarding color case hardening an M14 and answer was no due to fear of altering critical measurements on the receiver/bolt, etc.

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Old July 16th, 2016, 12:37 PM   #18
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How about using a dream catcher in place of the peep sight

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Old July 16th, 2016, 01:06 PM   #19
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Do I detect a little sarcasm in some of these posts?

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Old July 16th, 2016, 02:28 PM   #20
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How about a couple feathers hanging off the forward sling point and some decorative brass tacks in the stock?
Its still westernizing, but its not the cowboy way.

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Old July 16th, 2016, 04:29 PM   #21
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Has any body ever heard of color case hardening using Bone meal?
I seem to recall seeing a article where they took a Winchester 1892 receiver and put it inside a piece of pipe with a cap welded on one end and packed bone meal around it very tight and put another cap on the other end and tossed it in a fire, they covered it with red hot coals and let it sit until it was cool. they took it out and removed the cap and dumped it out and it had a beautiful CCH finish. I dont know how hot it got but I would not think it would have went over 700, it did not have any forced air or any thing, I have a junk M1 receiver, maybe I will try it and see what it does.

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Putting an M1 receiver in a fire will destroy the temper.

The heat treatment for an 8620 receiver is carburize at 1600 degrees F for a case depth of .012" to .018", oil quench and temper at 480 degrees F for 1 hour. The hardness will be between 59 to 67 HRc.

By the way, case hardening is still done on almost all firearm receivers, 'carburizing' is the same as case hardening. The thing is carburizing is done by heating is done in a carburizing furnace that inject carbon rich gas into the oven not by packing in ground bone and/or ground leather. The colors are the result of the other element present in bone and leather being infused into the iron/steel.

And a pile of wood on fire can get much hotter than 700 F, un-fanned coals of a wood fire can get to 1400 degrees F.

And if doing the packing in bone/leather bit, make sure there is no open air space in the container. Scale will form due to the oxygen.

EDIT: You will also probably also warp it.

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Old July 16th, 2016, 04:46 PM   #22
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Rare picture from 1775

These are M1 Garands, M14's and an M4 (AR15's) from 1775.
I do not believe they made it to the old West.
These were the Assault Weapons of the day!
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Old July 16th, 2016, 07:41 PM   #23
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Chino hills, how did you happen to restart this 3 year old thread?

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Old July 16th, 2016, 08:45 PM   #24
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Someone mentioned this in another thread, but I think it fits perfectly here. Luke Valentine's cut down M1 Garand pistols from Hellsing would be perfect if you could actually make them work. You'd have to somehow mod the gas system to create something shorter than a tanker setup, not to mention create a 16" Garand barrel. Though even less practical than my Ranch Hand, they'd still be amazing to see in real life.

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Old July 16th, 2016, 09:18 PM   #25
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I think what you guys are referring to and the coloring on that Colt revolver is called charcoal bone bluing or hardening.
Ruger Vaccaro's coloring is some kind coloring process, not case or bone hardening.

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It can be done via chemicals. That's how ruger, other companies do it. Turnbull is the traditional way.

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Old July 18th, 2016, 01:14 PM   #27
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I always wanted make a stock for a M14 that looked like a Kentucky rifle!

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Old July 18th, 2016, 01:35 PM   #28
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what about some custom leather trim w/tassels?
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Old July 18th, 2016, 01:39 PM   #29
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I think a short-barreled M1 carbine with the stock chopped would be pretty cool, if that's allowed where you live.

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Someone mentioned this in another thread, but I think it fits perfectly here. Luke Valentine's cut down M1 Garand pistols from Hellsing would be perfect if you could actually make them work. You'd have to somehow mod the gas system to create something shorter than a tanker setup, not to mention create a 16" Garand barrel. Though even less practical than my Ranch Hand, they'd still be amazing to see in real life.
That's what I was thinking after you showed that picture (was you right?)

M1 carbine, though, could actually be handled, though, I'd guess :)

I think an M1 Garand would be more than I could manage, and we're talking about my needs, right?

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