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Old January 3rd, 2012, 05:56 PM   #16
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Thanks RAMMAC. Sounds like the shooter is okay. One tough dudette!

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 05:57 PM   #17
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I guess that using the wrong powder and squibs have been ruled out, it sounds like a true slam-fire to me. Maybe the firing pin was sticking in the bolt due to not having cleaned it in a long time.

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:03 PM   #18
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Wish I'd had that footage for my hunter safety students.

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:24 PM   #19
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Wish I'd had that footage for my hunter safety students.
I can send you a copy.

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 06:38 PM   #20
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RAMMAC,

Thanks, but I haven't taught hunter safety since I retired in '98. I did show them enlarged pix from Brophy's book on '03 Springfields of what remained of the rifles after low-number receivers failed. The actual footage would have been more impressive.

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Old January 3rd, 2012, 09:00 PM   #21
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I've looked at that video afgain and again and I could be wrong but I don't think it fired out of battery.
Watch the video, the brass is ejecting too the 1 to 2 o'clock positon
until the shot at the 11 second mark. That brass did not eject or it ejected to her 5 o'clock position. The gun does not fire, she retracts the bolt, either clears the fired brass or clears a lose round from a short stoke, chambers a round (and at this point the bolt looks closed) and boom. It really looks like a squib to me. but heck what do I know.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 03:37 AM   #22
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She made the classic mistake of 'riding' the op rod, leaving the bolt unlocked. The Safety Bridge is supposed to prevent this, but if it is worn, kaboom.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 04:52 AM   #23
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"She made the classic mistake of 'riding' the op rod, leaving the bolt unlocked. "

Good call, Dave.

For those of you that don't know, always let the bolt slam home.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 01:11 PM   #24
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The rifle didn't fire out of battery. Watch close and you will see her flindh as she fires the 7th round only it did not go bang, there is no smoke out the end of the barrel and no recoil. She pulls the oprod back, removes the case and drops it to her left. She then pulls the oprod back and chambers the 8th round and does ride it forward but it appears to be all the way forward as with the previous shots. The rifle blows on the 8th round firing. This obviously is from a cartridge with no powder in it with the primer diving the bullet out of the 7th round's case and into the barrel. She chambered the 8th round with the 7th round's stuck bullet in the bore.

Lesson learned; any time a firearm doesn't go "bang" as intended, stop and check the bore for the bullet.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 01:17 PM   #25
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Yep it looks like she rode the op rod forward but it could have very well been a squib load.

As a LEO firearms instructor, especially when instructing rookies on the range I would always tell them...

If the report from your weapon differs from shot to shot or if the recoil is different...

Stop shooting, do not pull that trigger again, raise your non shooting hand and keep your weapon pointed safely down range. Then I would go over and check to make sure their barrel wasn't obstructed by the bullet from a squib round and then they could continue their course of fire.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 03:16 PM   #26
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Out of battery.

She never drops the 7th round, she keeps it in her hand.

Scary stuff.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 08:18 PM   #27
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This is what frustrates me, instead of speculating why not ask the person directly involved. I just got an answer from the lady involved and it looks like this is a classic open bolt problem.

She just posted about an hour ago
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The 7th round was a live round. The M1 jammed like it often does. Instead of forcing that round into the chamber, I took it out and slammed the bolt forward. We are thinking the chamber did not close all the way. My brother's M1 will still fire that way.
If you watch the video she does ride the bolt about half the way forward and then she lets it go home. She also mentioned previously that their rifles are known to fire even when the bolt is open by a half inch or so.

I also invited her to join our forum and told her that we have some pretty sharp experts that would be able to help provide guidance in regards to fixing her rifles.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 08:32 PM   #28
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RAMMAC she deserves a purple heart. Thank god she is all right.

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Old January 4th, 2012, 08:44 PM   #29
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She sounds pretty gutsy to me, she seemed to shrug off the bruises and such without much concern. I'll bet she is more upset about loosing the rifle than any injury that she suffered.

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Any Lady who fires a Garand on her two legs has my respect. A Lady who fires it AFTER something like this REALLY has my respect. Thank God she was not seriously injured.

No, I have never seen this happen with a Garand. Yes, I HAVE seen a real G.I. M14 blow up and the shooter WAS injured with cuts and lacerations in his left arm as well as a chunk of wood stuck in his arm and lacerations all over his face. THANK GOD he was wearing shooting glasses as there is no doubt he would have been blinded in one or both eyes had he not been. The cause of the M14 blowing up was the barrel maker PAID for certified steel to make the barrel, but instead got cheap steel with sulfur stringers in it. The barrel opened up like a banana on both ends and tore a chunk of the receiver barrel ring off the top as well aa the receiver heel broke off and came back towards the shooter. He may have been cut by it, causing at least one of the lacerations on his face.

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