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November 14th, 2010, 12:49 PM
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#1 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 51
| Sharps
Old school long range.
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November 16th, 2010, 02:47 PM
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#2 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.S.A.
Posts: 62
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Nice family portrait. They look like real fine rifles. What calibers?
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November 16th, 2010, 07:19 PM
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#3 | | Lifer
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 2,570
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Very nice.
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February 11th, 2011, 08:49 AM
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#4 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: May 2004 Location: Southern California
Posts: 158
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hubba...hubba
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March 17th, 2011, 08:57 PM
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#5 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cleman Barracks, Dept. of The Columbia.
Posts: 616
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Bravo Zulu, very nice….
I have a C-Sharp Arms 1875 in .40-65 and two Rolling Blocks also, in .43 Spanish and .45-70… Big Bore Single shots are kick=A*#... Trapdoors are too!!!!
Long Live William "Billy" Dixon!!!
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September 16th, 2011, 09:07 AM
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#6 | | Scout Sniper
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ellensburg, WA
Posts: 771
| Long Live the Sharps! Quote:
Originally Posted by IC2(SS)19Z50C5 Bravo Zulu, very nice….
I have a C-Sharp Arms 1875 in .40-65 and two Rolling Blocks also, in .43 Spanish and .45-70… Big Bore Single shots are kick=A*#... Trapdoors are too!!!!
Long Live William "Billy" Dixon!!! | Nice collection! I own a lovely custom 1874 C. Sharps in 45-90. Oh, and a "new" Winchester 1885 High-Wall (yeah; Miroku-built, but still; very nicely built & with it's Badger bbl, also v. accurate in 45-90! 3 shots of 535gr cast into 1" @ 100 meters!)
The article a few years back by Mike Venturino about the famous Billy Dixon shot and Mike's carefully documented re-test of that @ Adobe Walls shot was fascinating. What was Dixon's range again? ≈1578 yds?
A shot tempered with some luck to be sure, as even Billy himself noted, but also, to more or less place that bullet in the mostly deadly "Minute of Indian Chief" PoI was quite the feat.
But then, I suppose if you or I spent our entire adult lives out each day popping off our Sharps at far-distant targets, we'd develop a purty-good "feel" for our rifle's behavior, huh?
Enjoy! BTW, check out that new Lyman "shrunken" Chiappa Sharps in 38-55 & .22 Hornet. Sorta begs for a conversion into .22 K-Hornet, doesn't it?
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September 16th, 2011, 09:42 AM
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#7 | | Rifleman
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: U.S.A.
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[QUOTE=MesaRifle;736165]The article a few years back by Mike Venturino about the famous Billy Dixon shot and Mike's carefully documented re-test of that @ Adobe Walls shot was fascinating. What was Dixon's range again? ≈1578 yds?
That article sounds interesting. Do you know where I could find it?
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September 16th, 2011, 09:48 AM
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#8 | | Squad Leader
Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Albuquerque
Posts: 256
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Very nice. I've got an Italian replica 1874 in 45-70 that I love to shoot.
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September 16th, 2011, 12:07 PM
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#9 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cleman Barracks, Dept. of The Columbia.
Posts: 616
| Trooper Billy Dixon, Medal of Honor Recipient, 6th U.S. Cavalry Quote:
Originally Posted by RichN
That article sounds interesting. Do you know where I could find it? |
Hope these two links will help.... http://www.friendsofbillydixon.org/a...e_Article_.pdf http://www.friendsofbillydixon.org/a...ly%20Dixon.pdf
As I remember, Billy lost his original shooter in a wagon turn over in a creek... He bought a new Sharps, but during the battle he was undercover in a building away from his new Sharps and made the shot with a barrowed rifle.
As remember in Mike Venturino's book, they are not sure of the caliber, the conjecture it was a 50-90...
One another note, I just put money down on a M1873 Springfield trapdoor rifle with NM bore that someone had butcher the stock. I'm going to put all new wood on it and it will my number one Trapdoor (rifle) shooter. I have more than a few....
More thoughts on this subject from all who enjoy big single shots, where the shot is always "The First Shot"
Here is a picture all will enjoy. God Rest Trooper Billy Dixon, Medal of Honor Recipient and his service to our country….. http://www.homeofheroes.com/gravesit...illiam_tx.html http://www.cmohs.org/recipient-detai...on-william.php |
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September 16th, 2011, 07:42 PM
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#10 | | Scout Sniper
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ellensburg, WA
Posts: 771
| Here's the DOPE!!
[QUOTE=RichN;736177] Quote:
Originally Posted by MesaRifle The article a few years back by Mike Venturino about the famous Billy Dixon shot and Mike's carefully documented re-test of that @ Adobe Walls shot was fascinating. What was Dixon's range again? ≈1578 yds?
That article sounds interesting. Do you know where I could find it? | Yup; I did find it, but my error: it wasn't by Mike V. It was in the book Precision Shooting at 1,000 Yards, Edited by Dave Brenman and published by Precision Shooting, Inc., 222 McKee Street, Manchester, CT 06040. Page 171. Most recent re-print was 2009. It's a compendium of a number of articles on long-range shooting. The article, Chapter 10, was written by M. L. McPherson (of Cartridges of The World fame, since he took over the editorship from the late Frank Barnes).
They used XMP5744 (one of my favorite powders for the 45-70 & -90, BTW...) They shot at their long-range target (a silhouette of a mounted rider) 130 times and hit it 13 times. 10%. Not bad @ 1540 yds, their laser-measured firing range. and with a C. Sharps to boot! The cartridges? Two of them were a .45-110 and a .50-90, plus a 40-60 Falin (Falin is the chief ballistician at Accurate Arms, and one of the rifles is a custom C. Sharps). Of interest, one of the .40 cal bullets was 400 gr, starting out @ ≈1200 fps. The time to impact was a staggering 5.3 seconds. Anna one, anna two, anna three, etc. etc. And so on until...THUD!
Then there's part two, starting on page 184. This is a very intriguing combined article. As a Sharps shooter, you would do well to find and buy this book, but if you really can't find it, let me know and I'll crudely Xerox and mail it to you!
(BTW, this book is also chock-full of other very interesting articles on ultra-long rang shooting, but with somewhat more modern rifles & cartridges. Useful stuff! Enjoy! |
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September 17th, 2011, 08:24 AM
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#11 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cleman Barracks, Dept. of The Columbia.
Posts: 616
| Precision Shooting at 1,000 Yards
Edited by Dave Brenman and published by Precision Shooting, Inc.,
Thanks MesaRifle, I’ll look to see if I can get this book off of Amazon or through Powells.com.
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September 26th, 2011, 07:33 PM
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#12 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Cleman Barracks, Dept. of The Columbia.
Posts: 616
| Brennan’s book
[QUOTE=MesaRifle;736362] Quote:
Originally Posted by RichN
BTW, this book is also chock-full of other very interesting articles on ultra-long rang shooting, but with somewhat more modern rifles & cartridges. Useful stuff! Enjoy!  | I just picked up my copy of Brennan’s book, PRECISION SHOOTING AT 1000 YARDS at the P.O....
Looks like a great read.
On Amazon, under reader's reviews some “Pud” was complaining there were no “techniques” explaining how to shoot long distance, or some other stupid S@#t like that. When I read his belly aching complaint, my first thought was, another candidate for bowling…
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September 27th, 2011, 09:38 AM
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#13 | | Scout Sniper
Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Ellensburg, WA
Posts: 771
| The Technique
[QUOTE=IC2(SS)19Z50C5;740747] Quote:
Originally Posted by MesaRifle I just picked up my copy of Brennan’s book, PRECISION SHOOTING AT 1000 YARDS at the P.O....
Looks like a great read.
On Amazon, under reader's reviews some “Pud” was complaining there were no “techniques” explaining how to shoot long distance, or some other stupid S@#t like that. When I read his belly aching complaint, my first thought was, another candidate for bowling… | Glad you found it! A good read on many aspects of long-range shootin'!!
How To Shoot LD! Hmmmm.. Yah points thuh skinny end of yur smokepole down-range, and yah pullz thuh trigger (thet little sharp, pointy thing under teh GUN), and it goes click... Kah-Pow! 'Course, yuh gots tuh hold'er up a bit, and intah the wind, and then see WharSheSmaks thuh ground... Splat
Now, if you're under a life & death siege from the aboriginals, who indeed did have a just and righteous gripe with those crazy white boyz down in The Walls, you might well "larn up" a bit quicker (or die trying...). Or take the career path of our hero Billy Dixon, who spent most of his days out there with his horse, wagon, and his "possibles and necessaries" bag, black powder kegger and other equipment required to make up his various loads.
Wouldn't that be a fun existence for a few months, huh? Plinking your way across the west, though I'm not sure I'd enjoy slaughtering the buff just so I could leave their stinking bodies to rot out on the plains, and ship only their hides back east. But the rifle-shooting part? Wonderful!
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