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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:04 PM   #1
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Just got "delayed" at my FFL??

Guys,

Looking for some information/advice here. I just went to pick up my new 1876 Uberti Winchester that I bought on GB and had shipped to my FFL.

There have been no changes in my clean background and now all of the sudden I got a "delayed" I have purchased countless firearms before with no issues.

Any ideas? Can I do anything? VERY frustrating.

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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:12 PM   #2
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Hard to say. Do you have a common name that might show up on a warrant or something of that nature?

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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:22 PM   #3
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I think it was MLK jr who said a right delayed is a right denied. Happens to me 60-70% of the time over the last 15 or so over the counter purchases. Been through my NRA A+ rated Senator and everything. Bottom line is, if you don't like that infringement, if you subject yourself to even more infringement, it could get better, or not.

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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:26 PM   #4
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As I understand it, the only thing you can do is register a unique personal ID # with BATF (for future purchases). This according to my FFL. I was also delayed when picking up my latest transfer (within the last three weeks). They told me that ATF will either approve or deny within 7 days, if not, your FFL has the right to release it to you anyway. Mine took 3 days before the shop called to tell me that I had been approved.

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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:26 PM   #5
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Apparently you've reached your limit.

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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:27 PM   #6
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Probably not extremely uncommon but I always provide my SSN?

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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:29 PM   #7
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The last time that happened to me a person with the same name on the other side of the state had a PFA order
it took me months to straighten that out (I still have the letter)

I had my wifey buy the rifle I was after at the time of denial

She is the proud owner of a a303 Smith Corona


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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:33 PM   #8
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Old October 26th, 2016, 02:54 PM   #9
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It happens regularly. Not to me though fortunately. Ga ccw card get no phone in.

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Old October 26th, 2016, 03:15 PM   #10
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Might want to delete that post!

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Old October 26th, 2016, 03:45 PM   #11
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Result of process changes? ATF memo my FFL shared:

"On Saturday, October 22, 2016, the NICS Section will be implementing a temporary processing change. Any transaction requiring review will be automatically placed into delay rather than being transferred to the FBI. Historically, the vast majority of NICS transactions, 76 percent, are provided an immediate response. The remaining are transferred to the FBI for review due to a descriptive match of the potential purchaser with a record in one of the databases searched by the NICS. This is known as the Transfer Process. In a normal NICS operational realm, this real-time transfer process allows the FBI to assess whether the transaction could be given a final status by quickly reviewing the record(s) with which the potential purchaser matched and when possible allows the FFL to receive a response to additional transactions while he/she is still on the phone or actively engaged within the NICS E-Check system. However, due to increasing volume, the FBI staff has not been able to provide the Transfer Process service without negatively impacting FFLs with long wait times. With ever-increasing volume, the FBI continues to look for opportunities to improve efficiency both for internal FBI staff and for FFLs. On high volume days, such as a Saturday, FFLs can often be on hold or in researching mode (for E-Check users) for an extended period of time. Therefore, the FBI would like to try a new approach this Saturday to see if there is benefit to placing transactions immediately into delay once a descriptive match is detected. By doing so, FBI staff may be able to process transactions faster and respond with a determination in a more efficient manner rather than keeping FFLs in a holding/researching status unnecessarily. By not having the Transfer Process in place, all staff can be dedicated to work delayed transactions rather than being scheduled to answer phone calls and review E-Check transactions as part of the Transfer Process. The operational results of this change will be evaluated by the FBI early next week. If indeed benefits are realized for both the FBI and the FFL user community, long term changes may be considered."

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Old October 26th, 2016, 03:59 PM   #12
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Might want to delete that post!
If your were intending to be Serious rather than Humorous...

That would Not be an Illegal 'Straw Man' Purchase as it is between Husband and Wife and there is really no legal prohibition whatsoever prohibiting the Husband in this scenario from having his Wife buy any legal firearm for Him...

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Old October 26th, 2016, 04:01 PM   #13
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I've been there. Sucks. Especially after the ATF timer expires, and the LGS can legally turn the weapon over, but still won't because the ATF "doesn't like it when we do that"..

LGS waited almost 3 months before calling the state (in Oregon, we have to go through the State Police to run a NICS check), where he was able to talk to someone there, vouch for me (since I had bought at least 12 guns from him in the past), and get my permission slip from the state..

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Old October 26th, 2016, 04:15 PM   #14
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The ATF actually sent out a notice last week to gun shops, saying that things would be going slowly for the next couple weeks.

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Old October 26th, 2016, 04:24 PM   #15
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See what I mean? There's no reason to take our guns. We'll tolerate anything.

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