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Old July 23rd, 2016, 08:58 PM   #46
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Their are obviously a lot of people here that love the 45-70. I am one of them, I have a 1895SBL that was made after Remington bought Marlin. I had one problem with the rifle not feeding and that was repaired rather quickly. Since then, I have shot roughly 2000+ rounds without a problem. I would have no concerns about buying a new one.

My only advise like any firearm is to just inspect it carefully before purchase. And by the way that is the gun that got me into reloading

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Old July 24th, 2016, 08:23 AM   #47
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Sorry I was late to this conversation. It appears you figured it out. You want to start the bolt in about 3/4 of the way then tip the lever end right up into the bolt slot. and close the whole deal and line up the screw.



If you decide to take apart the action more make sure to purchase gunsmith screwdrivers that are hollow ground so you don't bugger up the screws.



For my Marlins I really like the Wild West Guns Happy Trigger Kit and Bear Proof Extractor. Top is the factory two piece trigger (wiggle)and bottom is the WWG Happy Trigger (no wiggle).



Also, do me a favor and take a picture of the left side of where the barrel meets the receiver. Let's see if this 30-30 is a JM.







This is what a JM stamp can look like.







Here is a clearer JM stamp.







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This is a new production Marlin, so it's got the cross bolt safety and the REM stamp on the barrel. They definitely don't spend a lot of time or attention in terms of polishing out the machine marks, but it's not horrible (although the machining quality in my AK pattern guns has desensitized me to this quite a bit). I took a picture of the left side of the receiver which is a good example.

I took the gun to the range this morning and put 40 rounds through it without an issue. I'm looking forward to getting the 44 mag model so I can give hand-loading a try

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That is a Remlin. I might get in some trouble for mentioning this but there is a very good lever forum called www.marlinowners.com. You are also welcome to PM me with questions as well. I own levers in 45 Colt, 357, 44 Mag, 45-70, 32-20, and 30-30. I learned from some of the best folks (many prior real Marlin employees) how to smooth out the action of all Marlins, Remlins included.

Enjoy, a lever gun is great fun.

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That is a Remlin. I might get in some trouble for mentioning this but there is a very good lever forum called www.marlinowners.com. You are also welcome to PM me with questions as well. I own levers in 45 Colt, 357, 44 Mag, 45-70, 32-20, and 30-30. I learned from some of the best folks (many prior real Marlin employees) how to smooth out the action of all Marlins, Remlins included.



Enjoy, a lever gun is great fun.


Thanks - I appreciate the help. If I'm deciding my serial number correctly, then my rifle was made in 2014.

I definitely enjoyed my first time out with a lever gun. My only real "compliant" is that the sharp edges of the lever did a number on fingers as I was cycling the action (I put on some gloves after the first few rounds and that solved the issue). I'm looking forward to trying the 44 mag when it shows up.



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Thanks - I appreciate the help. If I'm deciding my serial number correctly, then my rifle was made in 2014.

I definitely enjoyed my first time out with a lever gun. My only real "compliant" is that the sharp edges of the lever did a number on fingers as I was cycling the action (I put on some gloves after the first few rounds and that solved the issue). I'm looking forward to trying the 44 mag when it shows up.



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You are in for a great time. 30-30 is fun but 44 Mag is terribly addictive. Due to the high volume of shooting I do now I have a Dillon 550b progressive press. I can reload about 300 44 Mag cartridges an hour.

Enjoy the lever addiction.

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Even as a young man I had trouble hitting much at 100 yds. and beyond with a .30-30. .44 Magnum has been much more fun to shoot and I hit more consistently with a .45-70 than with a .30-30, FWIW.

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Even as a young man I had trouble hitting much at 100 yds. and beyond with a .30-30. .44 Magnum has been much more fun to shoot and I hit more consistently with a .45-70 than with a .30-30, FWIW.

If all goes well, the 1894 should be showing up at my FFL tomorrow. I'm looking forward to taking to the range this weekend to try it out. I still haven't written off getting a 45-70. The one that was on the rack snagged by someone else but I see that another local shop has a used 1895GS listed for sale. I'm not sure how I feel about stainless steel but I'll check it out anyway.


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You might want to consider a Marlin Cowboy.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/d...spx?item=70480

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The Cowboy model is nice but I'm not sure about the 26" barrel. One of the things that is drawing me towards the Marlin Guide Gun is the 18" barrel. When I shouldered the one that I was originally considering, I was amazed by how easy I could shoulder and swing it.



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You might want to consider a Marlin Cowboy.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/d...spx?item=70480
Thanks for pointing that Cowboy out, I think this is another I want in my shooting life...a 9+1 capacity and a 26" barrel. This should be a real winner!


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I went and checked out the 1885GS and decided that I really didn't like the stainless steel. So, it looks like I'm going to stick with the G model. They had a Henry All-Weather 45-70 on the rack too. I liked it but I'm not sure about the tube fed magazine vs. the side gate fed.


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I went and checked out the 1885GS and decided that I really didn't like the stainless steel. So, it looks like I'm going to stick with the G model. They had a Henry All-Weather 45-70 on the rack too. I liked it but I'm not sure about the tube fed magazine vs. the side gate fed.


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The side gate loading option should be more convenient to use than loading the tube itself. I used the magazine part number from either a commerative or possibly the "Cowboy" model to shorten and install on my Guide Gun. I think it added two rounds to the magazine capacity. Never got used to the look of the shorter-than-the-barrel mag; full length looks "proper" to me. Being old and also "old school", I never got used to the bright, shiny look of stainless steel, either. It is a superior metal from a low-maintenance standpoint if your rifle is exposed to harsh elements, but I would like for it to be darkened. Just a thought.

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The side gate loading option should be more convenient to use than loading the tube itself. I used the magazine part number from either a commerative or possibly the "Cowboy" model to shorten and install on my Guide Gun. I think it added two rounds to the magazine capacity. Never got used to the look of the shorter-than-the-barrel mag; full length looks "proper" to me. Being old and also "old school", I never got used to the bright, shiny look of stainless steel, either. It is a superior metal from a low-maintenance standpoint if your rifle is exposed to harsh elements, but I would like for it to be darkened. Just a thought.
I agree that the shorter than the barrel magazine on the guide gun looks a little weird but I think that I can get past it in order to get the side gate loading option.

The next decision that I need to make before I place my order is whether I should go with the straight grip or pistol grip model. This will probably come down to a coin toss. I've read that some guys claim that the pistol grip helps dampen the recoil a little better but I'm not sure that I understand how that would work.

It also looks like I'll have to wait until Monday to pick up my .44 magnum. My FFL called me last night to let me know that the gun got delayed in leaving the warehouse so it will be here on Monday.

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You are in for a great time. 30-30 is fun but 44 Mag is terribly addictive. Due to the high volume of shooting I do now I have a Dillon 550b progressive press. I can reload about 300 44 Mag cartridges an hour.

Enjoy the lever addiction.
I'm looking at reloading supplies for 44 Mag and 45-70 while I wait to pick up my 1894 on Monday.

I don't have a lot of room for a press right now, so I'm thinking that I'll start out with a Lee Loader kit for both and then see if I can find somehow to set up a single stage press in my garage.

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I'm looking at reloading supplies for 44 Mag and 45-70 while I wait to pick up my 1894 on Monday.

I don't have a lot of room for a press right now, so I'm thinking that I'll start out with a Lee Loader kit for both and then see if I can find somehow to set up a single stage press in my garage.

You could do a better, more precise job with an actual press. Mount it on a 2"x6" board long enough to clamp that board to a table for temporary / occasional use.

I don't see how a pistol grip stock would aid in lessening recoil either unless it could help that person pull the firearm into his shoulder prior to firing it. I prefer the straight stock for classical aesthetics. Maybe your shop will let you shoulder one of each to help you decide.

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