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Old January 29th, 2016, 09:11 AM   #16
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I'm struggling trying to decide which one I want to add to my lever actions in the safes. I have the 1873, 1860, and 1876 on my want list. I want them in .45 Colt cause it's what I reload for.

Man this is a hard decision.
For standard .45 Colt, 1873 for sure. If you decide to try black powder, you will get some sooty blowback into the action. The easily removal side plates on the '73 help with cleaning and maintenance.

Consider the Winchester 1892 if you want .45 Colt loaded up to Ruger Blackhawk pressure levels (i.e. Buffalo Bore +P .45 Colt). The Browning locking bar action on the '92 is extremely strong compared to the toggle links on the '73. Only use "cowboy or bp loads" in the Winchester 1873.

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Old January 29th, 2016, 05:32 PM   #17
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I have a ?
45 long colt or 44-40 ?
I reload several calibers and Starline Brass and Sierra is a 1 hour drive, Midway is 15 minutes and Graf & Sons is 30 minutes.
I'm really leaning towards 44-40 because that is the 1873 birthright, but can be swayed.
Let me know which and why.
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Old January 29th, 2016, 07:29 PM   #18
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I have a ?
45 long colt or 44-40 ?
I reload several calibers and Starline Brass and Sierra is a 1 hour drive, Midway is 15 minutes and Graf & Sons is 30 minutes.
I'm really leaning towards 44-40 because that is the 1873 birthright, but can be swayed.
Let me know which and why.
Thanks John.
I am a traditionalist. Here is the way I see it: In the Old West, .44-40, or 44WCF was a rifle round first, revolver round second. 45 Colt was a revolver round only, period. I prefer the Henry 1860, and Winchesters 1866, 1873, and 1892 in 44WCF. Even though the '60 and '66 used the old Henry 44 rimfire, 44WCF is a perfect substitute for the obsolete round.

44WCF is a bottleneck cartridge. In a lever-gun, it theoretically feeds better by design. It also has a very thin case mouth, which creates a near perfect seal for the chamber upon ignition. Thus, no blowback occurs, and the action stays very clean -> very very nice for black powder. The primary drawback is that reloading the 44WCF cases can be tricky. Ballistics are best with a case full of 2F Swiss (1300 fps for 24" bbl)

That being said, I like my cavalry length SAA in 45 Colt. It just seems so right.

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Old January 30th, 2016, 04:50 AM   #19
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Oh, youre ruined, I have the sporting in 45 colt, has a couple coy dogs to its credit. 250 gr rnfp with 9 grs unique, all it ever gets. Its doing almost 1180 out of the 24 inch barrel. Wait till you see a 1876, I have two, a 5095, and my favorite the 4560. Congrats , on a beautiful rifle, use caution, they get addicting.

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My load above was wrong, had to go look, its 8.5 grs unique with same bullet, 1162 out of the 73

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Oh, youre ruined, I have the sporting in 45 colt, has a couple coy dogs to its credit. 250 gr rnfp with 9 grs unique, all it ever gets. Its doing almost 1180 out of the 24 inch barrel. Wait till you see a 1876, I have two, a 5095, and my favorite the 4560. Congrats , on a beautiful rifle, use caution, they get addicting.
Tell me more about the 76s. I have an 1886 in 45-70 but I think I want the 76 in 45/60

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Old January 30th, 2016, 09:58 AM   #22
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What would you like to know? Its a 73 on steroids, mine both are 28 inch barrels. I prefer the 4560, cheaper components than the 5095. The uberti is a much nicer version than the chaparral. There was a 22 inch barreled short rifle that was discontinued. I put a tang sight on my 4560. It was originally designed around a kind of express load of a 300 gr bullet. I had some trouble with cut down 4570 brass, the 4560 has a thinner rim, and the 4570 brass wouldnt work in mine. Some rifles will accept it. They are definitely a reloaders rifle. The 5095 factory ammo at the local emporium is close to a hundred for 20 . The 4575 brass can be made from 348 win brass, thats kinda hard to find on its own. They are a very fun rifle to play with. Ive tried some black powder loads in the 4560, that was fun, until the cleaning. If you can find one definitely, I would recommend one

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As a follow up to my post, here is an article about reloading .44-40 w/ black powder.

http://gunsoftheoldwest.com/2014/10/...powder-rounds/

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Old January 30th, 2016, 01:45 PM   #24
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I got my Uberti .45LC Sporting Rifle out today for a few pictures with my .357 Sporting Rifle.



The .45 is in the back





The .357 weighs about a little less then a pound more because of the smaller caliber, more steel in the barrel.









As far as the .45 LC vs the 44-40, they are both a lot of fun to shoot. My Henry is in 44-40 and I had a real Winchester SRC in 44-40(the ex got that in the great divorce split). I have two Uberti SAA's in .45 Long Colt so it seemed natural to get the first 73 in .45LC. Since I got the other 73 in .357 I have been meaning to get some type of old West handgun in .357 same goes in 44-40, I did have an Uberti SAA in 44-40, the ex got that to go with the Winchester SRC. Oh well, just gives me an excuse to add guns to my wish list!

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The Italians build first class weapons. Looked at one of their open top colt copy... 38 spl...freaking trigger like butter smooth.... I don't need another firearm....today....perhaps tomorrow.

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Old January 30th, 2016, 08:40 PM   #26
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Wow those are nice Glashaus! I need to get a couple. While my Rossi 92 is a good fun gun that I'm not afraid to get a scratch on - thinking I need something a little more classy to go with it.

357 Rossi:


Just for giggles - picked this Uberti Hombre 357 up off gunbroker a few years ago for $250 + shipping & transfer NIB. Wished I would've 4 of the them - 2 in 45 Colt and 2 in 357...



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Old January 31st, 2016, 05:09 AM   #27
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Here are my two .45 LC Old Style Uberti Cattleman SAA's







I have had both since the very early 90's, they were favorite carry guns when I lived on a farm.

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I have two 1876's - one in 45-60, and one in 45/75. The pic is of my modified 45/75 model. Started out as a 28" standard 1876 - now sports a half round 20" I believe with shortened tube and shotgun butt plate. Also had the left side plates on both engraved with my initials. Both are great shooters - took one deer with one a few years back. I mainly load T7 in the 45/75. IIRC the 45-60 hosts 5744 powder........








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Old January 31st, 2016, 09:26 AM   #29
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More questions. I have a 24" rifle so would a 19-20" be the direction to go ? I am looking at a new Winchester 73 in .357 mag short rifle case hardened colored since I have a couple of .357 revolvers as well as the Uberti Cimarron short rifle. There is a substantial price difference but which would you get if it was a moot point ? I just had to look some more and now need more help. !! Thanks again, John.

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Old January 31st, 2016, 10:19 AM   #30
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If you already have the 24" I would get this one.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/produc...-hardened.html

I would like to get a SRC in .357 to go with my 24" .357 73 and a 20" short rifle in .45 to go with my 24" .45LC 73.

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