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Old November 15th, 2015, 07:05 AM   #1
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Picked up a Marlin 1895 45-70 over the the weekend..

and have some questions. The SN is B000000XX, barrel is 21 1/2 inches long, straight stock. Did some research and it said Marlin quit making the 1895 in 1915 and resumed in 1972 with the "New" series with serial numbers starting wit a B. If this is true then is my new rifle one of the first 100 built of the "New" series?

Also the wood has a lot of the varnish damaged. Does anyone know of someone who they recommend to refinish the stock and replace the packmeyer butt plate someone put on it.

Also I would like to put a receiver peep sight and a larger diameter front sight on it. Anyone recommend which of the Williams receiver sights (or other) seem to be the most popular for this rifle. I see Midway carries several of them.

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Old November 15th, 2015, 08:02 AM   #2
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You might be able to find more specific help over at the Marlin forum, and I know there are SN databases for the Marlin SN's available (I may have one buried in my docbox somewhere... I'll have to look.)

I like the standard Williams FP peeps, simple and low profile. With that big .45, you need to know at what distances you will be shooting. Sub-150yds and you can set it and forget it with the FP, if you are going to need to adjust it on the fly, you'd be better to get one of the adjustable models.

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Congrats on your new addition! Great rifles, the old ones are! I have a newer one from the early 90's. It is an outstanding rifle and a lot of fun to shoot.

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Old November 15th, 2015, 10:43 AM   #4
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If it has that @U$^$d up cross bolt safety its post 1983. Nice rifles, new production no way as good as older rifles with fit and finish. Try to refinish the stock yourself, butt pads from Marlin or Sarco.

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Old November 15th, 2015, 11:19 AM   #5
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Marlin calls the current version of your rifle the 1895, but it is built on the basic 336 action with opened up ejection area to accommodate the 45/70 case. Basically same action as 30-30 w/ different magazine tube, etc. Big advantage of the Marlin is that if you open the action by pulling lever down some half way, remove the screw holding the lever, pull out the bolt and you can then clean the rifle from the breech. On left side of action the ejector spring(leaf type) fits in a milled slot and capture it. Very simple durable action and can take a lot of punishment and still work. Slip the ejector back in place, slide bolt in receiver about half way, insert lever, close action, reinstall the lever pivot bolt and you are good to go. A Winchester Mod. 94 or similar rifles requires one to have three hands, punches, and a lot of patience just for comparison. Might mention that the ejector spring unit is subject to breakage and Wild West Guns offers a stouter version at low cost. Your rifle is common in Alaska where I once lived and you can imagine that after large bear, intentional or otherwise, that is not a good time to have that ejector break on you. Most reloading manuals for 45/70 give a range of loads as per firearm being used and the Marlin can take a strong load if so inclined, but it is a "thumper."
Based on the age of your rifle it will have Marlin Micro Groove rifling and nothing wrong with that other than I am told not the best for cast lead bullets. Current versions have so called Ballard type rifling which work better for cast bullets. Your receiver has the two small screw holes on left rear of receiver and the Williams Fool Proof sight is a good set up with appropriate front sight bead. Normally a 3/8" dovetail is either on the barrel itself or in a base and merely drift it out, put back in whatever desired. I used a Marlin 45/70 in Alaska and for close range that so called "Sourdough" brass blade front sight is good for quick target acquisition w/ your Williams FP rear. I also live in WV and if you need any help with your rifle, drop me a PM and glad to assist in anyway possible.

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You have one of the coveted BO rifles. I think it would have come with a steel present butt plate, and these were painful to shoot with full power 45-70 loads. Probably why the recoil pad was added. The finish that Marlin used on this era rifle doesn't seem to hold up all that well either.

Either of the side mounted Wllliams sights are good. I really like the ones with the target knobs, model fp-tk. But the screw adjustable sight is a little less bulky. The knobbed version is handy when switching between different loads.

Your rifle will have micro groove rifling. Contrary to what you may have read, they work fine with cast bullets of the proper size. Look on the Cast boolits website if you are interested in shooting cast. You really should consider it, 45-70 is great for cast bullets.

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Nice find! I too have a have a '95 in .45-70. Picked it up from a guy at work in the early '80s. He said he picked it up in 1976, but didn't like the big recoil. They must have dropped the "B" on the serial numbers by then, mine has an eight digit number, #2405xxxx, with no letter before or after the number. Barrel is a micro-groove with a curved hard plastic butt plate. I does leave a mark on your shoulder when you fire it .... how big of a mark depends on how many rounds you put through it. I put a Williams sight on it which made for a big improvement in accuracy for me. As for the barrel, what was said about using lead slugs is true for me. I couldn't get it to handle cast slugs that good at all. After three years of trying different weights and charges, I just stuck with jacketed bullets. A lot better accuracy with them. YMMV. Congratulations again. You'll like it. -Lloyd

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Old December 23rd, 2015, 06:01 AM   #8
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I notice you report your serial # with a B followed by 8 digits, mine is a B followed by 6 digits. Great guns -
I use a Williams foolproof rear with the aperture just screwed out. I replace the little front sight with one that came off an old H&R black powder gun a friend had. It is a simple post...... it reminds me of the sight picture with an M1A. I thought about getting an AO sight but mine is OK. I had it teflon coated for woods hunting in the rain.
It shoots cast bullets OK. I have an old hard Pachmayr on it but wish I had a Pachmayr Decelerator or a Kick-Ezz on it.....as you will find out as you shoot and reload for it - you will run out of shoulder before you run out of gun.

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Hmmm , mine was made in 1975 with 25079xxx ser.no. It does not have a Micro-Groove barrel and I've read the non-MG barrels (Ballard rifling) were actually made by Douglas.

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Subtract 1st 2 #'s of SN from 00 and that's your year of mfg, mine starts with 25 so that puts it in 1975. I like the Lyman receiver peep sights. These are great deer rifles out to 150yds.
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Old December 25th, 2015, 06:31 PM   #11
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Hmmm , mine was made in 1975 with 25079xxx ser.no. It does not have a Micro-Groove barrel and I've read the non-MG barrels (Ballard rifling) were actually made by Douglas.
Mine is 25088xxx. Does that make us 2nd cousins or something?

Seriously, I am not familiar with the B models so my info could be wrong about the SN.

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Did you shoot it yet? If so and it was with high power hand loads, how is the shoulder? I had a .450 Marlin. They kick like a mule.

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Mine is 25088xxx. Does that make us 2nd cousins or something?

Seriously, I am not familiar with the B models so my info could be wrong about the SN.
Are you sure about the first two numbers and subtracting from 00 for year of manufacture? Mine has a serial# of 2405xxxx. Subtract 24 from 00 you get 76. That doesn't sound right. With my serial number earlier than yours, it should of been made in '73-'74. The guy I bought it from purchased it new in '76. Mine does have the Micro-Groove barrel. -Lloyd

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Old December 25th, 2015, 10:40 PM   #14
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Yes sir. Pretty sure. It's kind of backasswards but I got that from the marlin forums. Now the OP has the letter b and alot of zeros so it won't apply to him, unless he has a rifle made in 2000. Your rifle was made in 76 I think.

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Old December 25th, 2015, 10:48 PM   #15
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I'm no expert, if I'm wrong please advise I'd appreciate it.

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