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August 14th, 2005, 12:43 PM
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#1 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
Posts: 624
| Guide gun and Peep sights
What is the the best option for peep sights on my guide gun. been looking at the Williams WGRS and the XS system?
like the XS system seems better built, but the Williams sits down on the reciever for lower profile.
Had a williams on a Marlin 44 mag with the short bbl. kind of hard to adjust - screws heads soft. but once I had it on with my reloads shot fine.
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August 14th, 2005, 12:56 PM
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#2 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas, Georgia
Posts: 993
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I have a .444 Marlin (older model, pre-safety) that I rebarrelled and cut down into a "Guide Gun" length carbine, without porting.
I use the XS sights on mine and really like 'em. The rig's murder on feral hogs when stoked up with 300grn loads!
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August 15th, 2005, 07:34 PM
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#3 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
Posts: 624
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I am leaning that way, the XS system is cool. You don't think they sit to high? I don't think I will use the forward scope mount.
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August 16th, 2005, 05:34 AM
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#4 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas, Georgia
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I get a very comfortable cheekweld with mine. I have never felt that the sights were too high.
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August 16th, 2005, 07:09 AM
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#5 | | Banned Camp
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Blackstone, Virginia
Posts: 450
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I bought mine when they were Ashley Outdoors! No problems on my Guide Gun.........
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August 16th, 2005, 03:29 PM
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#6 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
Posts: 624
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Looks like the XS sights have it. going to order this week. Thanks for the replys. :D
Gonna bust some feral hogs myself when it gets a little cooler.
My friends trapped 4 last weekend and let 2 of them go to get bigger. They taste so much better than store bought. slow cooked BBQ over pecan and oak fire. ya gotta love it. :!:
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August 16th, 2005, 05:10 PM
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#7 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Dallas, Georgia
Posts: 993
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Gator, what caliber's your Guide Gun in?
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August 16th, 2005, 05:26 PM
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#8 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nowheresville
Posts: 1,254
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Marlin GG's are .45-70.
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August 16th, 2005, 05:39 PM
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#9 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
Posts: 624
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450 marlin, older model with ported bbl. you should see what it does to my 2" thick 6" dia. gong at 100 yds. violently impressive! :!:
BIG BORE fun at its best :D
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August 16th, 2005, 07:48 PM
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#10 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nowheresville
Posts: 1,254
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August 16th, 2005, 08:14 PM
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#11 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
Posts: 624
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The only thing I have against my 450 Marlin is the lack of factory ammo choices. Hornady is the only load I can find. the lowest cost I found for a box was $23.00 not incld tax. So that comes out to over a $1.00 every time I pull the trigger. puts a serious damper on my big bore fun.
I will get the dies soon enough, but I'm working on stocking up some once fired brass (the fun way). My friend has the same gun in 45-70 and is shooting some Cast core 400s they also tend to bite on both ends.
Where we hunt is thick and the longest shot poss is less than 100 yds. just can't see that far. the hogs and the deer know to stay in the thick stuff. So the short BBL and irons are perfect. hope to see a 400 lb + this year. they are marking/rubbing mud on the trees almost as high as my waist. So we know there is some big boys in there. Can't wait to see that 450 rock one.
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August 17th, 2005, 04:51 AM
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#12 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Nowheresville
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Yep. That's my only complaint too.
.45-70 ammo runs about $1 per trigger pull too.
Cheapest I've come across is $19.95/box 20, or about $16/20 for reloads at gun shows.
Another mild complaint about the .45-70 is that to realize the round's full potiential, you have to reload anyway since the factory stuff is loaded light to keep from blowing up the old cavalry carbines. But at least there is a litle variety in the bullets available from the factory.
I've still got to pick up my dies and bullet molds, but I'm getting close to 200 pieces of brass on hand now. ;)
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August 17th, 2005, 03:34 PM
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#13 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
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you can buy the cast bullets so cheap it is almost not worth it to cast your own. I have all the equip to cast but I still buy them. better quality and less mess. Cast core and laser cast makes good quality bullets.
I will be getting my dies at the next gun show. usually pick up my bullets/powder there also, don't have to pay the high shipping cost for the small amounts I buy.
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August 18th, 2005, 09:43 AM
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#14 | | Banned Camp
Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Blackstone, Virginia
Posts: 450
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I roll my own for the 45-70, too. I was souping them up, but after reading how good the old blackpowder rounds worked, I bought some lazer cast 350 grain bullets and load down. Works very well on our southern whitetails and wild/stray canines. Less bruising on my end of the guide gun, too. I want to get a Ruger #1 in 45-70 to replace the guide gun.
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August 18th, 2005, 04:10 PM
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#15 | | Designated Marksman
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: louisiana
Posts: 624
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Why the #1 in 45-70? Whats your thoughts on that combo?
Don't get me wrong, I think Ruger #1s are way cool. but so is the Guide gun. multiple big bore rds in a compact package.
Just my 2 cents, If I was going for a single shot 45-70 it would have to be A Sharps. I guess I watched quigley down under too many times. ;)
The Ruger #1 just appears to be better matched with bottle Neck cartriges. 22-250, 270, 7mm, 300 ultra. 338 ultra etc...
of course thats why there are horse races, everbody likes something different.
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