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Old August 4th, 2012, 06:18 PM   #1
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Ruger 44 mag auto rifle

I'm not sure if this belongs here but here goes,
I inherited a Ruger 44 rifle after my brother passed away awhile back and decide that I might like to fire a few rounds through her. Any body have a recommended round that works good in it? do cast bullets plug the gas port?
I have a 335gn hard cast that I like to shoot in my other 44's

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Old August 4th, 2012, 06:34 PM   #3
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cast will work fine. don't think a gas port will be a problem. just don't go over factory specs for the bullet weight.

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Old August 4th, 2012, 08:37 PM   #4
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I grew up using a Ruger .44 carbine for heavy timber deer hunting. Usually 180-220 gr commercial. Minute of deer up to 100 yds. Within range it was devastating but never had to exceed 80 yds.
Beautiful maple stock, regretfully sold it. Very reliable, easy to maintain. You'll have to do some experimenting with the heavy cast loads, and like any other rifle they need to be cleaned and lubed to keep em humming. Maybe Ruger can give you some advice on load recommendations. Been a while, but don't think I ever exceeded 240gr. in mine. Nice carbines, enjoy. Sorry for loss of your brother.

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Old August 4th, 2012, 10:16 PM   #5
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It the semi auto model that looks like a 10-22 carbine but just a bit bigger, Ruger introduced it in 1969, there biggest down fall is a fixed 4 round tube mag that is loaded from the bottom like a shot gun. this one was made in the early 70's and has less then 50 rounds run through it.

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I've owned an early Ruger .44 Carbine (that is the model name) for a number of years and have taken a handful of deer with it. They are very accurate carbines but the downfalls are they are complicated to disassemble/reassemble (make sure the bolt is retracted to take out and put back into the stock!!!) and if you handload you will need to put a heavy crimp on the projectile because they are notorious for setback in the tube magazine. Cast bullets ane a no-no and even states to not use them in the manual because of possible gas port clogging. I've been very successful with 240gr. projectiles but I don't know about anything heavier. They are great little guns and you should really enjoy it.

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this one was made in the early 70's and has less then 50 rounds run through it.

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The early models like yours had a slower twist barrel than the later models. If I remember correctly, Ruger only recommended copper jacketed bullets. Hornaday has a number of loads specifically for this carbine. HTH

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cast will work fine. don't think a gas port will be a problem. just don't go over factory specs for the bullet weight.
as a rule...not advisable to shoot lead in a gas gun....gas checked hard cast might work...but with just cast lead, you may not know the hardness....I would stick with jacketed stuff...

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IMHO the heavy bullets would be hard on the action even without considering the lead effecting the gas system. I'd go no higher than 265gr jacketed, and lighter.

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44 magnum carbine

You can call Ruger and they will send you the instruction manual for this gun. In the manual it says to shoot jacketed bullets as opposed to lead so you don't clog the gas port. It also says "medium velocity" loading is not recommended because it does not always function properly. Standard loadings are are preferred. The manual does not specify bullet weight but I shoot only jacketed 240 grain in both of my Carbines and they function well and are alot of fun to shoot. Enjoy the gun and think of your brother when you get that 44 Carbine grin!

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http://www.vintagegunleather.com/gun-manuals/R.html
Look at the 2 Ruger 44 Manuals...One is for the old style and the other for the new
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I'm not sure if this belongs here but here goes,
I inherited a Ruger 44 rifle after my brother passed away awhile back and decide that I might like to fire a few rounds through her. Any body have a recommended round that works good in it? do cast bullets plug the gas port?
I have a 335gn hard cast that I like to shoot in my other 44's

Casey
These are amazingly strong guns.

I started reloading in 1976 with a couple of my buddies. Since we lived in Alaska we HAD to have .44 Magnums. The Super Blackhawk was the only .44 Mag handgun Ruger made at the time and they also made the .44 carbine of course. My buddy Jerry had one of each. We had one Hornady Reloading Manual between the three of us. It listed one load for .44 Mag handguns and another, more powerful load for the Ruger .44 carbine. I advised Jerry to start below the listed maximum for the handgun round and only load that one so they wouldn't get mixed up later. But, what did I know?

So Jerry rolled up some .44 Magnum 240gr. JSP's with something like 20 grains of Unique. That sounded a little strong to me but what did I know?

Range day rolled around and off to the Rabbit Creek Range we went. I had a Marlin .444 lever action that I had just rolled some loads for (2 grains UNDER the listed maximum) and Jerry had his Ruger Carbine with his Unique loads. He took the bench to the left of me so my back was to him. I fired one out of my Marlin and was in the black at 100 yards using iron sights (I could SEE irons back in those days...)

Jerry fired his first round and there was the most horrible sound I have ever heard from a rifle. It was a combination of KA-BOOM and screeching metal. I turned to look and Jerry was hunched down lining up his next shot. The rifle's action was smoking and there was an empty cartridge stuck in the ejection port. I signaled to him with my hands and he checked the rifle and pulled the empty cartridge out. There was a hole right through where the firing pin had hit the primer. Before I could stop him he manually reloaded and fired another round and the rifle screamed and smoked again. This time there was a failure to eject and the cartridge was stuck in the chamber and had to be tapped out with a cleaning rod. I told him that he should NOT fire any more of those rounds and he should throw them out or segregate them. But, what did I know?

He took the rifle to a gunsmith who checked it out and informed him that he had stretched the barrel chamber so much that it had ruined the receiver. A couple of weeks later Jerry was at the range without me shooting his Super Blackhawk (I bet y'all know where this is going). The top chamber of the cylinder came apart, blew out the two adjoining cylinders, and took the top strap off. He gave me the rest of those reloads - 47 out of 50 - and I disassembled them. The powder charges averaged 22 grains of Unique.

In summary, your brother left you a superb little rifle and may God rest his soul. The rifle was made for jacketed 240gr. factory loads so as long as you stay close to that it should do OK. I doubt that your brother would ever forgive you if you blew it up.

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My first Centerefire rifle was a Ruger 44 Mag Deerstalker. This was in the early 1960's, I was a "kid" around 12 years old.

It is NOT recommended to shoot lead bullets in these rifles.

Back then the only ammo avialable for them was Winchester 240gr Hollow Soft Point ammo, and Remington 240gr Soft point ammo.. later there was the 240gr Remington SJHP [Scalloped Jacketed Hollow Point]. Rumor has it, that Remington spent more money in research and development on this bullet than any other in its history. Later still there was the Federal 240gr HP. And later there was the Speer 240gr Soft and the Sierra 240gr HP.

I killed several deer with all of the factory loads, and with the 2 Remington bullets and the Speer and the Sierra bullet in handloads over 22.5gr of 2400 and later 24gr of H-110.

It did not make ANY difference, all of these loads killed deer like the Hammer of Thor.
My longest shots were 125 yards, I had a scope on the rifle. I never recovered a single bullet, all shots gave complete penetration. Deer never ran more than a few feet.

When I say I shot a lot of deer, I hunted with my dad and his friends and I was tasked with killing several doe for the freezer for all the "guys" as this lease had way to many doe, they needed to be thinned, and all these guys liked to eat deer meat.

When Bill Ruger named this rifle the Deerslayer, he new what he was talking about...

Now you might try some heavier bullets, such as the 270 Speer or some 300gr bullets. I never shot them in my Ruger, they were not around back then, but these heavier bullets have shot good, very good, in my Winchester, and it has the same 1 in 38" twist Microgroove bbl as the Ruger, and the Marlin.

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Old October 29th, 2012, 10:35 PM   #14
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Anyone wanna try their hand at "manufacturing" a high cap mag for the newer Ruger Deerfield carbine? Maybe a 15 rounder like an M-1 Carbine? That's be everything that the M-1 Carbine SHOULD have been, lol.

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If you google it somebody posted a multi page color photo essay manual on how to break it down and detail clean it. Print it out and save it. If you PM me I can email it to you. Pretty complicated but not bad if you follow the directions . Mine shoots 240 win white box like laser beams. 180's forget it and it jams. I have a old Leupold m8 fixed 3 power and inside 100 it will put the bullet in the crosshairs. My wife likes shooting it because theres no recoil. I foolishly passed on a mannlicher stocked one. Good luck with your. Sorry about your brother.

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