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November 22nd, 2010, 07:48 PM
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#1 | | Snappin In
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: bisbee Arizona
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| M14's in Kellys Heroes
I seen an M14 twice in the Kelley's Heroes movie.
First time at a distance when the bridging crew sargent argues with kelly that it will take 5 hours to build a bridge and kelly says he's not waiting that long. Then kelly's Platoon loads up on oddballs last sherman and begin to cross the bridge. If you look carefully as the soldiers climb up on the shurman there is a soldier right up close to the right rear corner of the turret riding on the back behind the turret...Aint that a m14?
and later when they are in the town across the street from the german billeting "The brown building", one of the soldiers mounts a rifle grenade on the muzzle of ....an m14 and later after he fires it it is clearly an m14.
As crapgame says "you win a cookie"
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November 22nd, 2010, 09:10 PM
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#2 | | Lifer
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I'll watch next time but it shouldn't be since it is WWII. M1 time. 
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November 22nd, 2010, 11:18 PM
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#3 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: People's Republic of Kalifornia
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When I first read this I thought "no way......I've seen this movie too many times not to notice."
Nothing on TV tonight so......I just finished watching it and I think you're right mike 16!
Every time is brief, but its there. The "Fisher" character is the guy with it. Same guy Crapgame says "you win a cookie " to.
First saw it as he climbed onto the Sherman at the bridge scene. Box magazine, and the gas cylinder, FS with bayonet lug ain't no BAR.
I saw it when they were moving into town, slung over his shoulder while he is carrying tripod for the .30 cal.
Saw it when he fired the rifle grenade
Saw it when he and Big Joe walked up as Oddball was sitting down drinking wine and eating cheese.
I'm surprised I've never noticed before. Once they go for the gold you got a couple .30 cal. machine guns, sniper rifle, one guy (red bandana) with a BAR and Thompson, and everybody else with a Thompson.
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November 22nd, 2010, 11:38 PM
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#4 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Long Island NY
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Oh boy you just gave me an excuse to watch it. Hope it's on netflix. It's there I just ordered it. If it's there the continuity guy was sleeping that day.
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November 22nd, 2010, 11:45 PM
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#5 | | Snappin In
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: bisbee Arizona
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I dont want to be banned from this site for sayin this but... the kid in the bell tower has a mosine negant scoped rifle...
You get a cookie 
Ya know the movie was made in Jugoslovakia back in 1970... wonder where they got an m14 from. and what about aaaalllllll that military equipment,,,,U.S. Anyway
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November 23rd, 2010, 04:54 AM
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#6 | | Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Howe's Cave, NY
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Originally Posted by mike16  I dont want to be banned from this site for sayin this but... the kid in the bell tower has a mosine negant scoped rifle... | Why would you thnk that one would get banned over that????
GEEEEEZ!
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November 23rd, 2010, 09:33 AM
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#7 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: central New York
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I did notice the Mosin-Nagant also. The scope and mount was the first give-away. I believe the country and the movie was sort of anti-war and anti-military at the time. Probably wasn't going to hire any type of military advisor to make things correct. Also the movie M*A*S*H came out about the same time which followed along in the same lines. I'm glad PATTON came out around then also to set the movie moguls straight.
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November 23rd, 2010, 10:52 AM
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#8 | | Master Gunner
Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Originally Posted by mustang7 I did notice the Mosin-Nagant also. The scope and mount was the first give-away. I believe the country and the movie was sort of anti-war and anti-military at the time. Probably wasn't going to hire any type of military advisor to make things correct. Also the movie M*A*S*H came out about the same time which followed along in the same lines. I'm glad PATTON came out around then also to set the movie moguls straight. | You are correct, Kelly's Heroes is an anti war movie. There are lots of errors in the movie, check out IMDB for the details. With all that said, it is still one of my favorite movies.
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November 23rd, 2010, 04:08 PM
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#9 | | Snappin In
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: bisbee Arizona
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I was kidding about getting banned
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November 25th, 2010, 08:12 AM
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#10 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: May 2009 Location: USA
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Ive seen that movie at least a dozen times, never noticed, but I will next time.
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November 25th, 2010, 02:50 PM
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#11 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ohio
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Well, the M-14 is clearly wrong, but the Germans did use captured weapons. Russian submachine guns, Browning Hi-Powers, Browning model 1922s', Polish Radoms, Austrian Steyrs, and others were used. I don't have a problem with Nagants, but like others said, this movie wasn't known for accuracy-and if a Nagant was used, I'm sure it was a fluke. BTW, I haven't seen this flick in years.
Charlie
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November 25th, 2010, 03:22 PM
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#12 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pennsylvania
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This is one of my favorite movies and I've seen it a hundred times and have it on tape. I've freeze-framed it almost as many times. It's not an M-14 , but an M-1 carbine with an M-8 grenade launcher. 
Yeah , the squads sniper is using a M-N , but that's not too far fetched as they could have picked one up. They were well regarded as the 1903A4 really wasn't that accurate.
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November 27th, 2010, 08:04 AM
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#13 | | Grunt
Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: H'ville,tennessee
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+1 on the carbine. I thought the shot from the back of the tank just looked out of proportion somehow. Like the rifle was too small or the guy had really huge hands. Thank God for the zoom button.
I don't think I recall ever seeing a carbine with a grenade launcher mounted in any movie before.
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November 27th, 2010, 11:19 AM
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#14 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: People's Republic of Kalifornia
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Originally Posted by ExMR2 I don't think I recall ever seeing a carbine with a grenade launcher mounted in any movie before. | I never knew there are grenade launchers for the carbine..... 
no M14 then.
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November 27th, 2010, 06:13 PM
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#15 | | Automatic Rifleman
Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Indiana
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This is one of my favorite movies...an I'm watching it right now on tape while web surfing!!!!! I'll watch for those spots an see...the sniper guy I noticed earlier that what he had from the beginning of the show wasn't a 1903....I thought maybe a 1917...?....but come to think of it, it could be a Mosin....real Shermans an Tigers though.
Just finished watching....ya thats a carbine for sure...the sniper rifle looks like the carbine mosin..but no ramrod coming out from the front, an the bolt comes out an then takes a 90 degree bend straight down....don't the mosins bolt come straight out...?..looks like a put together parts gun actually...never shows him operating the bolt.
Last edited by DragonGunner; November 27th, 2010 at 07:53 PM.
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