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Old May 18th, 2017, 01:22 PM   #1
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Zev connector review

I've got a new, bone-stock Glock model 26 gen4 ((correction: model 27)) (the baby Glock, a very fat baby) and a model 23 gen2 I purchased used many years back. (My duty piece is gobmn't owned G22 gen4 but is not really part of this thread.) All these are .40S&W handguns. I am our armorer & have passed the Glock Advanced Armorer class FWIW. FWIW means, "It isn't worth much".

A famous large parts vendor (rhymes with brown-nails) had free shipping and I decided to get a couple cheap & small Zev brand Glock trigger connectors, model V4, actually two of them. For those unfamiliar, the connector in a Glock is a flat-metal bar bent like a fish-hook which dictates the weight of the trigger pull. Most Glocks come with a 5.5lbs connector because 5.5lbs is a cosmic value that keeps everyone safe. There is a reduced pull Glock "-" (minus) connector but it is supposed to be 'agency armorer only' & with permission granted on 'agency letterhead' or if you are specifically mentioned by name in the KJV Bible then you can get one. But there are aftermarket connectors from a number of sources, no restrictions cause they just want your money. Zev is a well known name in the custom-Glock arena so I ordered two of their V4 connectors after reading lots of good reviews. The V4 by itself is supposed to drop the pull to approx 4lbs.

I installed the first connector in my new G26 ((correction: G27)) and (read this in Homer voice) "do'h, a dead trigger". And then the slide wouldn't release for take down, "double do'h". My G26 ((G27)) was all bound up. I had to gut the slide & drop out the firing pin safety to separate the slide from the frame. Looking at V4 #1, the hooked-finger-thingy was extremely short and thus the trigger bar was jumping past it without releasing the striker.

So, V4 #1 was down, I went to my G23 and put in the other V4 (#2) and...
...mush. Now a Glock does not normally have a great trigger or even a really good trigger but this had turned into, well, spongy mush. Like pulling your finger thru a 6"-tall pile of mash potato and somewhere in there, without notice, the firing pin releases. Now maybe, in some alternate universe, that would be a great thing but not in my world, on my hip. I pulled V4 #2 out and couldn't see anything wrong so decided to test it in the G26 ((G27)) and,

got exactly the same thing,

potato mush.

In the pic of all connectors together the #1 V4 is easy to spot. I'm posting all this saying I will just stick to Glock-OEM parts. I'm not a precision target shooter and don't compete, MOA (Minute Of A**hole) is all I really need. Perhaps this will save someone from some problems. My sample size in this review is only two so maybe I just had really bad luck. I didn't bother to try V4 #2 in my duty gun just because there is no chance of me using it there and the V4 #2 had already struck out twice.

I'm sure someone here will say they have installed 17,000 Zev connectors and all are fine after a bazillion rounds fired. I accept that (not really), I'm just saying I was two for two.
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Old May 18th, 2017, 01:26 PM   #2
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Interesting. I put one of their trigger kits in a G19 recently and all seems well. I haven't shot it yet but it feels much better while dry firing. This was a full kit and not just the connector.

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Old May 18th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #3
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I put Ghost 3.5lb connectors in a couple of Glocks, but decided they were a little too light for me. I ended up just polishing up the OEM parts with JB Bore Shine, and that helped. On my Gen 4 gun, I had to change Gen 4 trigger/trigger bar to Gen 3 to get it to function properly. Many say the Gen 3's are better anyway, and the triggers aren't expensive.

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Changing the connector make the second stage so to speak longer but softer. It is like pushing a 55 gallon drum up a ramp on something 5 foot high. At 45 degrees it will be harder but shorter, change angle to 25 degrees and it will be much easier to push but you will have to push it further. Hope this makes sense I'm not a word smith like you Doug.

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If the G26 is for carry, then I would start thinking about what you are going to tell the jury when the prosecutor asks you why you installed a "hair trigger" in your pistol.

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[QUOTE=youngk5;2867825]If the G26 is for carry, then I would start thinking about what you are going to tell the jury when the prosecutor asks you why you installed a "hair trigger" in your pistol.[

Please define hair trigger.

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I run 3.5 on just about all of my Glocks. It is not a hair trigger, but is just a lot smoother than the stinking 5.5 pounder. I have Fulcrum trigger systems on my three match Glocks.
The 40, 35 and 34. I hate factory stock triggers. I feel your pain with the stock guns.

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A hair trigger is the one the prosecutor will define for you, not me. It is the one that you, the bloodthirsty killer, put on your pistol in hopes of one day killing an innocent man. That is how it will be defined and that is what you will have to explain away. There won't be any Glock enthusiasts on the jury, but every one of them will know what a "hair trigger" is from TV. There will be plenty to answer for without adding one more thing. There is precedent in case law. See below. So even if you escape the murder charge by showing no intent, to escape prison you will also have to beat the lesser included charge of manslaughter. The combination of fear at the time of the shooting and the modification to gun will make this charge very palatable to a jury.

This is from Santibanes v. Tomball, Texas.

Finally, the Court takes note of the modification to Sergeant Williams' weapon. In particular, he initially stated that his weapon—a Glock brand 21, .45 caliber pistol—had not been modified. However, after forensic testing and inspection, it was revealed that the weapon had, in fact, been modified in three separate respects. The relevant modification was to the weapon's trigger connector.12 The record also shows that Sergeant Williams, prior to the
[654 F.Supp.2d 606]
incident, replaced the pistol's 5 pound trigger connector with a Glock 3.5 pound trigger connector. Forensic testing determined that this modification reduced the force needed to pull the trigger to approximately 4.5 pounds, making it easier to fire the weapon. In light of these considerations, whether Sergeant Williams, in fact, intended to discharge his weapon is an issue that cannot and should not be resolved at the summary judgment stage.

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I have a G27 (40 S&W) that I put a Zev trigger/trigger bar in, and it greatly improved the trigger. The trigger pull is smooth, low mush, and less take up. It is still approximately at the original pull weight. I was looking at the pics of your connectors; are they all Zev connectors? They all look differen: different thicknesses, and colors. In the past I used a Ghost (-) connector. I thought it made my pistol's trigger a little too light, so I took it out. If I was running a range or target pistol I would have kept it in use. My only complaint about my Zev trigger is I cant use my Safety Block with it. The shape on the back of The Zev trigger is different, and the block will not fit.

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I have a G27 (40 S&W) that I put a Zev trigger/trigger bar in, and it greatly improved the trigger. The trigger pull is smooth, low mush, and less take up. It is still approximately at the original pull weight. I was looking at the pics of your connectors; are they all Zev connectors? They all look differen: different thicknesses, and colors...

Well now that you mention it, I stand corrected, what I typed as G26 is really a Glock 27 (do'h). Still the fat baby.

In the pics the order, left to right is mystery G23 connector from used gun, Zev's #1 (short thumb), Zev's #2 & then my G27's factory connector. Same order in the stacked pic from top to bottom.

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