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Old May 10th, 2017, 06:13 AM   #1
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New SA 1911

I've been quite busy for a while so I haven't been on the forum as much but I thought I'd share some horrible photos of a very nice little pistol I recieved last Friday as a bonus from my boss. A brand spanking new Fully loaded SA "Champion" 1911. I'd never seen one like it before I was given this particular pistol. It's certainly a more compact version compared to the conventional model. It feels really nice in hand, and tear down is quick and simple. ( though not quite as simple as my Russian Makarov) Anyone on the forum have experience with these?
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Old May 10th, 2017, 06:35 AM   #2
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The pictured pistol appears too be a olderish loaded model by looking at the plastic Blue Box, they as in SA has been shipping pistols in a Black molded foam lined case for some added cushion. You can call SA customer service and they will give you the date that the pistol shipped out on and that date will be close enough too be the pistols born on date.

There solid and well built 1911's that will serve you well, and more than likely your children after your gone.

Quick question does your pistol have the much hated ILS main spring housing? I bet it does. Most SA 1911 owners swap it out the ILS housing and internals pretty quick, it easy too do. The ILS uses a 28lbs main spring from the factory way too stiff/overkill.

For a Commander 4.25 or Champion 4.0in 1911 pistol a good spring combo is a 18lbs recoil and 19 mainspring due too there shorter slide length.

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Quick question does your pistol have the much hated ILS main spring housing?
What is an 'ILS' MSH?

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What is an 'ILS' MSH?
That's the "Intergraded Locking System" in the MSH, ILS for short and there a pain in the rear.

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Looks good to me.

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That's the "Intergraded Locking System" in the MSH, ILS for short and there a pain in the rear.
Sounds like a pain in the sear...

Yea, that would be gone.

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I don't believe it does. Unless there is more than one type of ILS MSH? Forgive me it's my first 1911 lol. The spring is fairly stiff for my liking but the MSH doesn't have the lock port in it. I need to call Springfield and get some info on it. The boss man doesn't know much about it other than it's not a standard 1911 configuration, so he's not crazy about them. He had this one and several others still in their boxes laying around since who knows when. Late 90's is my guess. Either way It was a heck of a bonus for no reason lol!

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I don't believe it does. Unless there is more than one type of ILS MSH? Forgive me it's my first 1911 lol. The spring is fairly stiff for my liking but the MSH doesn't have the lock port in it. I need to call Springfield and get some info on it. The boss man doesn't know much about it other than it's not a standard 1911 configuration, so he's not crazy about them. He had this one and several others still in their boxes laying around since who knows when. Late 90's is my guess. Either way It was a heck of a bonus for no reason lol!
I agree nice gift for no reason, I think its newer than the 90's as I don't see a barrel bushing and it also being a loaded model... Regardless should be a fine shooter and give you years of shooting enjoyment, by the way is the ser. number prefix N or NM and does it say FI Brazil anywhere in the dust cover (side or bottom).

P.s. post better pic's.

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I like the looks of it.

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Looks like it was dipped in a bucket of 30W for the pix, LOL. Hope its a shooter.

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Hello, Nice to see you back.
Yours Champion looks a little different than mine, besides the loaded trigger and hammer.. the slides logo is stamped different and no barrel bushing. It doesn't appear to have F1 Brazil on the slide; under logo or an N in front of the serial number on the frame. Mine was made in "95" and has both of those... It will be interesting to hear what SA has to say about it..
But, as others have said, Very nice gift...(wish my boss was that giving) and nice to see you back. Are you feeling better now? Hows the kids and the little lady? hope all is well.

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Looks like it was dipped in a bucket of 30W for the pix, LOL. Hope its a shooter.
it was indeed drowned in oil! I had to giver er' a wipe down to even make out the lettering on it.

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Hello, Nice to see you back.
Yours Champion looks a little different than mine, besides the loaded trigger and hammer.. the slides logo is stamped different and no barrel bushing. It doesn't appear to have F1 Brazil on the slide; under logo or an N in front of the serial number on the frame. Mine was made in "95" and has both of those... It will be interesting to hear what SA has to say about it..
But, as others have said, Very nice gift...(wish my boss was that giving) and nice to see you back. Are you feeling better now? Hows the kids and the little lady? hope all is well.
I'll post some more pics below, yeah no Brazil stamp, but there is an N in front of the SN. Thanks for the welcome back! I'm doing alright for a mess lol. Still doing the revolving door with the doctors as usual. They're about to cut on me again to test some muscle tissue. Fun stuff! I can't complain though brother, still sucking air so I'm alright. The family is good as well. Hope you and all of yours are doing good as well.

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Hopefully these will be a bit better!
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I'll post some more pics below, yeah no Brazil stamp, but there is an N in front of the SN.

Duh, it says FI Brazil on the underside of the dust cover, not that it matters but it helps date things. I think is was made in the late 90's early 2000's it also being blued and not many were blued so its a little more desirable my .02 cents is its a keeper.

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