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Old April 19th, 2017, 05:10 AM   #31
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Here is mine.



It was NIB and unfired when my dad gave it to me before he up and died. We took it to the range and put 100 rounds through it. The first DA trigger pull is about as smooth as a Stanley Staple gun but the follow up SA shots were as easy as Sunday morning. 5 shot groups were tight. Would not hestitate to carry one as my primary.

Is the .380 a man stopper? I have no doubt.

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Very nice Jerry.

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Old April 19th, 2017, 07:52 AM   #32
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the thing i like about the glock vs the ppk type of firearms is less moving parts and less of a rust issue. i shoot my glocks,pop the upper off,pop out barrel and spring guide assembly,drop in in the utencil tray of dishwasher,pop in a soap thingy,and turn it on.

squeaky clean,blow it off with some air,lube and put back together. simple
saw all the makarov take down stuff. good weapon,too many little parts

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Old April 19th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #33
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I don't know...the OP hasn't replied at all.

My thoughts are a congromulation of all the posts...

Don't carry something you aren't willing to lose (after a shoot.)

There are better weapons the same size of the PPK/s that shoot the superior 9mm round (vs the .380)

I don't understand the OP's desire for a) decocker and, b) the DA/SA trigger system.

There were some suggestions for the Kahr series pistols... that's where I was going. Indeed, they are striker-fired pistols, but discounting the weird request for the decocker/DA-SA, they are as solid a carry pistol as you can get. Steel frame, poly frame... either or, you can't go wrong. I carry either a poly CW9 or CM9 wherever I go, and I have them sprinkled around the house. I trust my life to the simplicity and reliability of the Kahr.

Personally, adding the complexity of the DA/SA system to something that will be a gross motor skill application, let alone the hammer-drop safety, is just an invitation to disaster. Just me...

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Old May 24th, 2017, 04:10 PM   #34
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Absolutely right. A ppk is about as think as a small 9mm.

I guess the advantage of the ppk would be a easier shooting pistol.

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Old May 24th, 2017, 04:37 PM   #35
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to the OP: if you want to carry a small steel frame like a PPK....you might as well go for the Makarov. it is a better gun IMO. it is also cheaper; the ammo is cheaper; it holds more ammo....and the 9x18 has similar ballistics to a .38 special. when it comes to small steel frame pistols, the Makarov is a masterpiece. it has the fewest moving parts of any pistol, which makes it super reliable and durable. you should see the torture tests on youtube they did on that thing.

the Polish P64 is another option in the same 9x18 caliber. it is a very small and well made gem. do not get the P64 if you plan on using the double action though. trigger is like 20lbs. basically it is made to rack or cock. i would opt for the Makarov though....it is a much safer gun too. even the Cali-Commies import them because they can survive the drop test.

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You may also want to consider the CZ P-01 (if you need a rail for mounting a light) or the CZ PCR. Both are DA/SA with decocker, steel slide and aluminum frame. They are reasonably light, comfortable to carry and very accurate. They also have better capacity than the PPK (14+1 of 9mm). Spare parts, mags, holsters, etc. are readily available and there are several options for aftermarket sights.
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to the OP: if you want to carry a small steel frame like a PPK....you might as well go for the Makarov. it is a better gun IMO. it is also cheaper; the ammo is cheaper; it holds more ammo....and the 9x18 has similar ballistics to a .38 special. when it comes to small steel frame pistols, the Makarov is a masterpiece. it has the fewest moving parts of any pistol, which makes it super reliable and durable. you should see the torture tests on youtube they did on that thing.

the Polish P64 is another option in the same 9x18 caliber. it is a very small and well made gem. do not get the P64 if you plan on using the double action though. trigger is like 20lbs. basically it is made to rack or cock. i would opt for the Makarov though....it is a much safer gun too. even the Cali-Commies import them because they can survive the drop test.
I have a P64 and its agreat carry gun. I changed the springs out for lighter springs with a Wolf kit. That first double action pull is still hard at 17 lbs.

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I have a friend that just got a like new Walther PPK also and wants to CCW it. I told him don't, it's too nice and get a small XD, I know you said you don't like them but I am also a 1911 guy and want a sweet carry gun that would be in the $1500 range, but if I ever had to use it and it got confiscated at least I'd only be out an XD. That is probably the one I will go with, I have to be in my logical mind about it.
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also....an even cheaper version of the Makarov: the Polish P83. it is butt ugly but is only about $200 and is lighter than the Makarov. it is a very good gun for the money. both the Makarov and P-83 have de-cocker safeties.

i used to carry a Sig P232 in .380. excellent gun and very similar to the PPK.....but why a 9x17 when you can have a 9x18?

if you ever get over your hang-up on polymer guns....the SW Shield is the best bang for the buck. not only is it cheap....but it might be my favorite single stack gun to shoot. available in 9mm, .40, .45

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I think the Sig P239 is a good choice for Killashrub.
Meets all his criteria and is available in the preferred 9mm.

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Wow you guys can tell I am not much of a handgun guy. And that I don't look around the Handgun topics much. I didn't think this post really went anywhere. I am surprised it took off.

It will take me some time to read everything but I have pretty much decided on a PPK. But I am still weighing my options. The pistol I choose will be either a 380 or 9mm and must have DA/SA with de-cocker. And preferably a steel frame. I have been eyeballing the Walther P99 DA/SA again. About the only polymer frame I am interested in. Other than that I may go for a commander sized 1911 in 9mm maybe. We will see. Handguns arnt really on my top priority list. (even though it should be a high priority) As you all probably know M14's are my number 1 priority...........sometimes M14's take precedence over food.........I know....its sad.

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I believe even 007 threw his PPk when it jammed in one of the Bond movies.
If it jammed for James, what chance do you have? If I'm gonna my to carry, it's going to be with hollow points and something that feeds them without failure. Old designs aren't happy with HP ammo and the PPk has a history of jamming.
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Sig Sauer P239 in .40 S&W... slightly larger, slightly heavier, but designed for the job... they can also be had in 9mm, and .357 Sig.
They were originally developed for LE Back-up, and Off Duty in the same calibers as their duty weapons, but in a more concealable package.
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IMO, there is nothing in the small semi auto pistol world quite like the classic ppk. From my own experience, they are stunningly accurate for what they are. Weight is the only real drawback, if you are not used to all steel pistols.

I prefer da/sa safety or true dao for pocket carry. Even in a decent pocket holster, I refuse to carry a cocked and locked pistol.

If you get one, be sure to use light grease on the slide rails, and put a couple hundred rounds through it for break in. Mine runs perfect with PPU and S&B brand .380 for range, and Federal Hydrashok for defensive.

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as Diablo Gato says range run it before carrying it,


and run some of your self defense carry ammo as well:
1 - to be sure it chambers/fires and you know where it will hit, POI v. POA
2- fire a mag into a deep bucket of water or gel to confirm your round does what you expect from your barrel length.

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