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This is a discussion on Open Carry Handguns??? within the Handguns forums, part of the Gun Forum category; i like concealed carry better, the idiots think,"lets rob the old guy",as the old guy triple taps a 9mm into their chests,snickers,and walks away....


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Old April 13th, 2017, 05:37 PM   #16
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i like concealed carry better, the idiots think,"lets rob the old guy",as the old guy triple taps a 9mm into their chests,snickers,and walks away.

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Old April 13th, 2017, 05:47 PM   #17
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Some of you clowns need to get a license to practice your free speech. It seems like most of you panty waist idiots mimic lemmings running to the cliffs edge. Either you believe in your Rights or you don't. Quite frankly I wouldn't trust any of you fear mongering worrywarts with a bag of potatoes. I use all my rights and have no fear.

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Old April 13th, 2017, 05:56 PM   #18
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higgins,who lit your tampon string tonight?

my thoughts about open carry,is the idiots see it,if they want to,can plot to remove it from you.advantage them. if they don't see it,and all of a sudden,it pops out and bites them,advantage you.you are free to do as you please if allowed

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Old April 13th, 2017, 06:04 PM   #19
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I believe in my rights and volunteered to support them.

I'm also aware that 50% of my fellow citizens, likely, are not on the same page as you and me.

I'd rather persuade than provocate.

Just as you want and I want to vomit when we see the idiots of the left doing what they do, there are an exact opposite number of people, who, when the time is right, when enough seats are held, will act, (see the Affordable Care Act),

So go to Walmart with your AK.

You showed them.

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Old April 13th, 2017, 07:07 PM   #20
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Either you believe in your Rights or you don't. I use all my rights and have no fear.
Sarge, when it comes to open carry your rights are defined by law. If the electorate decides that open carry is problematic and the law makers concur, you can no longer practice it - assuming you want to. I see little reason to open carry and I see absolutely no reason to go around inciting fear in the population. I've seen the later in our area and it does no good for our cause.

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Old April 13th, 2017, 07:52 PM   #21
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Once, here in my area there was a group of Quakers that organized a march from a high crime area to their meetinghouse to bring attention to the high number of gun related murders. It was highly publicized so the open carry crowd decided to form a counter rally at one of the busiest intersections the Quaker group crossed.

Now there was nothing in this Quaker rally that said anything about taking gun rights away, just a march to bring attention to senseless killings.

They were marching quietly and in a orderly fashion with lots of women and children.

I got there early to observe and was appalled at the behavior of the open carry crowd.
Everyone was milling around brandishing AR15s and acting like it was a big weapons party. When the march came to the intersection loud comments were made by the 2nd amendment supporters and many of the open carry people were brandishing their firearms across their chests and in ways to make it look as if they were ready to fire at a seconds notice.
The civilian traffic was stalled by the march and I could clearly see the looks on the faces of the families in the cars that just happened on to this scene.
Mostly looks of fear and worry about the scene.

I spoke with some of the open carry people and asked if perhaps what they were doing was not a good idea. The replies ranged from "if I have a right, I'm going to do it" to one or two who out and out told me that they were ready to take on the government to preserve their 2nd amendment rights.

The police were on the scene and kept everything fairly peaceful until the march was over and things settled back down to normal. I understand that after the event a number of them went to local cafes and food shops while open carrying and caused a lot of upset among locals that just wanted a quiet Saturday.

The truth was that I was ashamed of the actions of the open carry people. They could have easily made a better point by carrying signs that supported their position and giving out leaflets with facts and figures to shed light on the false information 2nd amendment detractors were using in the media.

That was a few years ago and things with the open carry folks have quieted down. You don't hear a lot about it any more. For that I am grateful. Our county has a very high number of concealed carry licensees so I guess some comon sense has gotten into
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Old April 14th, 2017, 04:19 AM   #22
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Open carry has been legal in VA since I moved down here (from WV) in 1985. I used to see the old guy across the road walking around with a revolver strapped to his leg. My next door neighbor was a county LEO and told me it was perfectly legal.

I have occasionally seen people open carry in stores/public places over the years. Especially when you go to a gun show, you'll see them walking through the parking lot with a handgun dangling on a holster. They have to unload them before entering the gun show, but they'll carry them to the show anyway.

I open carry on my own property, but carry concealed in public.

I believe, unless you're carrying in a group of open carry people, you're at risk for being ambushed for the purpose of steeling your handgun. Search the internet, it's happened, not always successful, but it happens.

I still remember one guy walking around in Lowes with one kid in the cart and two small ones tagging along behind him. His Glock was hanging off his belt in a holster with no retention strap and angled so that the grip was well out from his belt and the holster was almost over his back pants pocket. Way back there, where it made it even easier for someone to grab out of the holster. If he's still doing that, I hope someone is looking out for him/looking over him and keeping him and his children safe.

You could legally open carry in WV years ago. I remember my cousin carrying his .45 acp when he rode his 4 wheeler. WV seems to be "ahead" of VA in many ways.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 04:46 AM   #23
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Noticed the comment about some saying that "they would be willing to take on the Government..." assuming they meant by force and with firearms. Seriously, that would be a huge mistake for there is this concept of "overwhelming force" applied these days and the local police when they show up for whatever incident are numerous and in the rare instances where it would involve the military they have this thing called a tank and an AR15 or AK is of little use in such circumstances. In America the best and only way to defy the Government is through the ballot box, not the cartridge box, choose wisely.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:09 AM   #24
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I see it all the time in my shop! these thugs/punks open carry at past 3 oclock with their saggy pants or without a belt without a locking holster. Here i carry concealed everyday and think to myself if someone had to walk in on him and wanted to steal his gun they could easily do it because he wouldn't be aware nor could he defend himself. but to each his own....

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Open Carry will never be accepted

until a critical mass of folks exercise their God-given right to do it.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:24 AM   #26
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higgins,who lit your tampon string tonight?

my thoughts about open carry,is the idiots see it,if they want to,can plot to remove it from you.advantage them. if they don't see it,and all of a sudden,it pops out and bites them,advantage you.you are free to do as you please if allowed
My tampon was a little dry and irritating me much. While there may be an instance or two of criminals trying to take a firearm(yes there will be those) it doesn't prevent me from being a citizen who knows my rights. A Right that is not exercised is a Right that is NOT ONE. A full American Citizen must remember to use them or lose them. Sure you can carry a weapon like a criminal and IF you don't know it yet, a criminal or anyone paying attention will still spot your weapon, and take it from you much easier...yes that happens more often than you realize. So the excuses don't fly about open carry.

I open carry and conceal carry depending on what I have to do. Open carry usually everyday, conceal carry where they post no guns. I love to live and cherish my family so I personally don't get the entire fear factor of most. I'm a proud Texan and love our family history of service to both Nations, the Confederacy and the Union. So I try to be as active in the support of our Constitutional Rights as I can be. I participate in the Constitutional Carry groups and speak in groups whenever I can, even to our state and county officials.

I'm no shrinking violet when it comes to educating the general public. Some of our citizens have been beaten down so much they are shocked to see a person Open carrying. The idea that a person has chosen to carry openly automatically sends some into a conditioned response of a slave mentality. Be free and feel no shame in being a well conditioned and able American or in my case a Texan....since most can't be a Texan I understand.

Remember this if you can. When Texas was readmitted into the Union the carpet baggers removed the Right to Bear arms in 1866 by writing a new "Article 23 , They stated The Right to Bear Arms, but the Legislature has the right to regulate" So the Union wanted to say you do...but you really don't! Even today the Texas Constitution does not have all the Bill of Rights. Can't trust the Texans or the newly freed slaves after the Civil War.

So today we are fighting in the Legislature for restoring our Rights.... Open display is just another aspect of trying to educate and show people they too can practice their Rights without fear.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:28 AM   #27
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Noticed the comment about some saying that "they would be willing to take on the Government..." assuming they meant by force and with firearms. Seriously, that would be a huge mistake for there is this concept of "overwhelming force" applied these days and the local police when they show up for whatever incident are numerous and in the rare instances where it would involve the military they have this thing called a tank and an AR15 or AK is of little use in such circumstances. In America the best and only way to defy the Government is through the ballot box, not the cartridge box, choose wisely.
I suppose that sort of talk is a lot of bravado in most cases. Anyone who has actually seen large scale violence doesn't want to see it again. In fact, many who have witnessed it live with the fear of experiencing it again.

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Noticed the comment about some saying that "they would be willing to take on the Government..." assuming they meant by force and with firearms. Seriously, that would be a huge mistake for there is this concept of "overwhelming force" applied these days and the local police when they show up for whatever incident are numerous and in the rare instances where it would involve the military they have this thing called a tank and an AR15 or AK is of little use in such circumstances. In America the best and only way to defy the Government is through the ballot box, not the cartridge box, choose wisely.
Those who are not up to the task should kindly step out of the way of those who are. It is hoped that their example of courage will inspire the sunshine patriots to also do their duty.

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Old April 14th, 2017, 05:42 AM   #29
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IF you don't know it yet, a criminal or anyone paying attention will still spot your weapon, and take it from you much easier...yes that happens more often than you realize. So the excuses don't fly about open carry.
Sarge, if one's concealed pistol is visually evident, they have not chosen their weapon, holster and/or clothing wisely. I have purchased holsters that did not offer me adequate concealability (they easily printed through cover garments) and as a result did not use them. I have also found that some holster designs seem to require frequent adjustment of the holster and that convinced me that they were not suitable for my use either. Not all holster work for all individuals and not all cover garments are effective. One needs to choose wisely.

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i like concealed carry better, the idiots think,"lets rob the old guy",as the old guy triple taps a 9mm into their chests,snickers,and walks away.

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