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Old March 29th, 2017, 03:59 PM   #1
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Auto-Ordnance..."almost, not quite"....

So I ordered the 1911BKO and it arrived at LGS yesterday. Picked it up today. Young Lad behind the counter said "nice!......a 45 just like the old guys had"......huh? Old guys?.....well, my Grandad carried one in WWI, Uncles carried one in WWII and Korea, Dad carried one in Korea, my older Brother carried one in his Army stint prior to being issued a 92.....but HEY!.....I carried one and taught a butt load of Navy types to shoot one......and I'm only 52!.....

Of course young Lad behind the counter was a hair over Bday 21......so I quickly said..."NO! its not.....almost but not quite". I showed him the things that immediately stood out from issued 1911's....shiny barrel hood, finish, beveled magazine well, longer trigger, magazine follower, slightly taller sights, just to name a few......then I broke it down.....and pointed to that damn firing pin block crap.....and said loudly...."That crap is NOT like us "old" guys had!"....

Over all, it fits my intended needs. But that damn firing pin block.....geezus how stupid and really bugs me. But fret not......my 12 yo doesn't know the difference and he was excited to break it down and throw it back together.....he's timing himself....lol....not sure where that came from....; )

I ordered six mags from Midway, Springfield Armory 7 rounders. Need six to do the Navy watchstander qual and the Marksmanship Qual course. Which is all I intended it for.....memories.....it's not the same with my flashy custom 1911. Mags came today.....fit and dry function well.

The sights on the AO will be tricky....as I am older and sight has faded. Depending on how I look through my glasses I can almost make out the front post.....lol

I also dug out my "old" issued holster and mag pouch....duty belt is somewhere in a box. Its a Bianchi UM nylon.....the AO looks at home in it.......like so many that rode in it back in the Navy days......

Can't wait to see how it runs, and how the mags feed. Probably need a tweak here and there......but it will stay as is....no aftermarket add on's.....there were no goodies on my issued 1911's...

We'll see if I can beat my high of 275/300 on the ribbon shoot with it.....that was 1988 or so.....LOL

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52? i got socks older than you

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52? i got socks older than you
.....that's because you are an avid Glock pusher.....and probably got that way from your Tupperware collection, which hold your socks.....; )

For the record, I have socks older than me also.....my Granddad's Hudson Bay Outfitters socks....; )

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52? i got socks older than you
Yeah, so do I, LOL!

I hope you like the AO as well as I like mine. CMP is a good place for GI mags, ordered 4 and came today, all GI in wrap like the ones RichD got. Only $8.40 ea. Hard to beat that.

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I'd appreciate it if you'd keep posting your experiences with your new 1911 XUSNORDIE. I intend to buy one of these for a project in May. I hope you enjoy it!

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Yeah, so do I, LOL!

I hope you like the AO as well as I like mine. CMP is a good place for GI mags, ordered 4 and came today, all GI in wrap like the ones RichD got. Only $8.40 ea. Hard to beat that.
I'm sure I will. This is more for my kid who wanted to have what I was issued. But It will be fun to run the courses with it. I can smooth out any hiccups with good ol USGI armorer training......which for a Navy Armorer of the AO rating consisted of a manual, a hammer and a case of beer.

As for mags.....I have a ton of USGI "somewhere"....too many moves and a divorce between. Some will need to be rebuilt as I recall......but we'll see how the SA's hold up.

The boy is under 2 min breaking down and putting back together.....that damn firing pin block and tight slide stop are getting the best of him.....lol

Wait until he does it in the dark........

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This will fix your problem with the slide stop:

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=214653

After you strip down your Series 80 firing system a few times you'll get used to it. I prefer having the firing pin block and my trigger pull is outstanding. Without the FPB suppose the sear breaks when the pistol is cocked & locked, what happens? That may sound far fetched to you but do you know if your sear is MIM or machined steel?

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The boy is under 2 min breaking down and putting back together.....that damn firing pin block and tight slide stop are getting the best of him.....lol

Wait until he does it in the dark........
Two minuets? What do you do stop for lunch?

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This will fix your problem with the slide stop:

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=214653

After you strip down your Series 80 firing system a few times you'll get used to it. I prefer having the firing pin block and my trigger pull is outstanding. Without the FPB suppose the sear breaks when the pistol is cocked & locked, what happens? That may sound far fetched to you but do you know if your sear is MIM or machined steel?
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Two minuets? What do you do stop for lunch?
To be clear......I have no issues with any of it. I'm well under a minute ...; )It's my 12yo Boy that is timing himself breaking down and putting back together.

As for the firing pin block series 80 crap I think it is ridiculous.......I have fired a zillion or more rounds in issue 1911s during my time. Have I seen breakage?.....yes mainly worn/broken disconnector making a 1911 brrrrrrp pistol. Putting this thing on it was only to please the CA morons.....not "CA Complaint" without it. All my time condition one, and others, never saw or heard of a breakage when cocked and locked.....not even sure how that would happen or why it would happen as in that condition it is typically holstered, or somebody is trying to squeeze one off with safety engaged?......weird

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I'd appreciate it if you'd keep posting your experiences with your new 1911 XUSNORDIE. I intend to buy one of these for a project in May. I hope you enjoy it!
Hoping to get to range this Sat morning......have 200 rds of 230gr itching to go down range. Mags are numbered ready for testing.....; )

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The firing pin block isn't the end of the world. Spend less than 10 bucks, get the filler plate that takes the place of where the FP block parts used to be and throw them in the trash. Problem solved and done.

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It's been 30 years ago but I certainly remember this event. I leaned downed to check tire pressure on my truck and the 1911 slid out of my shoulder holster and hit the concrete butt first. I was staring straight into the muzzle. Obviously it didn't fire or the worms would be finished with me by now. I bought a Series 80 soon after that. Everything works just fine until it doesn't one day!

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Sort of like the really stupid looking little wing safety that Rossi puts on top of their model 92 win clone rifles. I was going to remove mine but since it required nothing I decided to just ignore it and it ignored me as well.

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To be clear......I have no issues with any of it. I'm well under a minute ...; )It's my 12yo Boy that is timing himself breaking down and putting back together.

As for the firing pin block series 80 crap I think it is ridiculous.......I have fired a zillion or more rounds in issue 1911s during my time. Have I seen breakage?.....yes mainly worn/broken disconnector making a 1911 brrrrrrp pistol. Putting this thing on it was only to please the CA morons.....not "CA Complaint" without it. All my time condition one, and others, never saw or heard of a breakage when cocked and locked.....not even sure how that would happen or why it would happen as in that condition it is typically holstered, or somebody is trying to squeeze one off with safety engaged?......weird
I'm with you on this one ordie! No 80's fpb on mine. All 3 of mine are MK4 Series 70 or earlier. Same with a cross safety on a lever action. Useless and won't have one. -Lloyd

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My newest carrying .45, a Para Expert Lightweight Commander has the FP block and I have no intention of disabling it. I actually like it. I've had the thumb safety brushed off enough to have the FP block give me some peace of mind about carrying C&L.

And for those who parrot the line that John M Browning didn't design it that way , keep in mind the thumb safety wasn't his idea either. It was added by Colt.

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