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Old April 1st, 2017, 10:55 AM   #16
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Just got back from range.....sent a couple hundred rounds down range from the AO BKO working it out and evaluating, last 30 rounds being a designated course of fire......the Navy 15yd Watch Stander Qualification course.

Have to run and pick the Boy up from baseball practice, then go buy him new cleats (never ends...)....then I will post my review and some pics

Even broke out my Navy issue UM84 holster/mag pouch for this.......I had flash backs of the old days.....complete with hangover........lol



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Old April 1st, 2017, 03:01 PM   #17
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I'll keep it....

So off to the range a bit later than expected this morning......had a buddy come over last night and well, he brought a 30 pack and I was already forearm deep into one....late night to say the least....; )

Thankfully pistol range was not crowded....in fact pretty much had it all to myself. After my first two mags I was alone for the remainder of time...which is nice.

So, the Auto-Ordie had been stripped, cleaned, lubed, magazines numbered, and probably dry fired a million times since I brought it home. I was anxious to say the least.

I set my stand up with a typical cardboard silhouette at 15 yds. I wanted to run each full mag and evaluate for any pistol or mag malfunctions. Locked and loaded....on target.....my first though was.....damn my eyes got bad......I almost forgot how the issue sights were, and my progressive lense glasses had my head in some weird ways trying to find a sharp front sight....lol...not too be had, but more on that later.

I ran through all seven (07) mags without any issues with them or pistol. That was deliberate slow fire. I was pretty impressed. Nothing fell off, no FTF, no FTE, brass all went to a neat little pile after bouncing off the netting....all went as should.

Next set of full mags I wanted to step it up.......rapid fire.....all went well, until mag #6....the trigger remained depressed. Training kicked in....TAP-RACK-BANG-BANG-BANG. I put #6 aside. Same thing for #7......trigger did not reset. This time I simply pulled it out and the rest of the mag went fine.

Hmm. I took the slide off and made sure disconnector wasn't sticky.....nope. Could be several things....maybe #6 and #7 mags are swelled a bit and rubbing trigger bow? Maybe the sear spring is giving me a weak middle finger (pun intended).....maybe maybe maybe.....I slapped the slide back on and kept on burning rounds trying to see if it happened again.....nope.

Next I wanted to shoot controlled for accuracy......I had a small "X" low on the silhouette. I already knew it was shooting a bit high...not being able to pick up that front site didn't help....damn glasses.....even with a little permanent marker on it....so, I decided to use old slab sides for something its a natural at.....Cirillo Technique.....15yds is a tad far but worked great. Once I figured out the POA for that it was fairly easy.

After basically trying to come across more malfunctions the pistol performed very well for 170 or so rounds. Just those two little weird glitches with mags #6 and #7 that did not happen again....

The last 30 were saved to shoot the Navy Small Arms Watchstander Qualification course (OPNAV 3591.1C J-041-0148 ) on a fresh target

Slow Fire 15 yds 2 mags of 5 rounds not timed

Timed Fire 15 yds 2 mags of 5 rounds 20 secs

Rapid Fire 15 yds 2 mags of 5 rounds 15 secs

Believe it or not.....students only had to have 20 out of 30 hits on paper to be certified as armed watchstander.....AND I had plenty fail!

I was happy with the AO BKO....we will see how it holds up over time before any tweaking is needed. Those sights made me feel old....group on qual was not as tight as I had 30 yrs ago.....on the next range trip I will try the Pistol Marksmanship Ribbon shoot. Basically the same thing but at 25 yards, and a Standard American Slow/Timed Fire target which is scored as the following:

225-300 Expert (Medal and ribbon with E device)
200-224 Sharpshooter (ribbon with S device)
180-199 Marksman (the dreaded "Naked" ribbon.....yikes)

My highest with a issue 1911 was 275......with our match pistols it was 300 or close to all day long......; )

The old issued UM84 and mag pouch!

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Getting ready for the qual course....cleared and safe weapon.....lol

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30 on target...

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Going to keep her.....

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Happy day at the range with a new toy that was like hugging an old girlfriend who could still get it going after so many years!

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Old April 1st, 2017, 03:51 PM   #18
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Looks like some pretty dang good shooting!

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Did you shoot other ammo besides the BPT? Did the factory mag work OK in the shoot?

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Looks some pretty dang good shooting!
Thanks.....it was like stepping back in time. I was going through the commands in my head word by word. Brought back some memories and thoughts of some really great friends. One who is now disabled combat Vet anchored to a wheel chair, and another who is no longer among us. I saw them today as they were back then, standing with me much younger and full of life with a 1911 on their hip barking range commands. Hate to get sentimental over it, but of all the fancy weapons I have now this is the most dull and inexpensive, but may turn out to be my favorite along with my M1A "Connie".

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No the Browning BPT 230gr FMJ was all I put through. I have no desire to run anything but 230gr Ball type through it.

The factory mag (KMT) is Mag #1.......no issues at all with it.

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Nice shooting ordie. Like you glasses give me a pain when trying to line up that G.I. bump sight on the slide. I changed out the front and back sights on two of my Colts to Novaks to see the front sight. The other is a Gold Cup with an Eliason rear and Partridge sight up front. -Lloyd

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Nice shooting ordie. Like you glasses give me a pain when trying to line up that G.I. bump sight on the slide. I changed out the front and back sights on two of my Colts to Novaks to see the front sight. The other is a Gold Cup with an Eliason rear and Partridge sight up front. -Lloyd
Thanks. My "fancy pants" 1911's have Bomar BMCS sights.....to me they are the Bees Knees. I have an older set of fixed 3 dot Wilson Combat sights still in package I want to put on a build some day. I like the Novaks as well......looking to put them on my BHP MKIII to complete that build.

This one is staying as is for certain reasons, with exception to replacing worn/broken internals as needed.

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It's not manly if you have an extra safety feature or two. LOL

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Thanks.....it was like stepping back in time. I was going through the commands in my head word by word. Brought back some memories and thoughts of some really great friends. One who is now disabled combat Vet anchored to a wheel chair, and another who is no longer among us. I saw them today as they were back then, standing with me much younger and full of life with a 1911 on their hip barking range commands. Hate to get sentimental over it, but of all the fancy weapons I have now this is the most dull and inexpensive, but may turn out to be my favorite along with my M1A "Connie".



No the Browning BPT 230gr FMJ was all I put through. I have no desire to run anything but 230gr Ball type through it.

The factory mag (KMT) is Mag #1.......no issues at all with it.
I was impressed enough with that shooting to snag a box of that ammo tonight. I wont shoot it as well as you do but want to try it anyway. I have had real good luck with FMJ and a couple of powders. BTW, the serial number on my gun is later than yours even though I have had mine for a while.

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It's not manly if you have an extra safety feature or two. LOL
It bugs the crap out of me knowing it's there.......

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I was impressed enough with that shooting to snag a box of that ammo tonight. I wont shoot it as well as you do but want to try it anyway. I have had real good luck with FMJ and a couple of powders. BTW, the serial number on my gun is later than yours even though I have had mine for a while.
That's the most common 45acp in my neck of the woods now. The 230gr has performed great out of my FNP45, Custom 1911, SW Shield and now this 1911. The 185gr also shot well from my Shield.

We will see how good the shooting is when I try the 25 yd qual......I'm a bit concerned with that one....can still bang out expert easily with the P226, Custom 1911 and other pistols I own.......but these sights with these eyes will be challenging.....but fun.

I ordered the pistol from Davidsons and had it shipped to my LGS last week. When I ordered Davidsons had two (02) on hand.

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Its a fairly new offering around here, price was less locally than most net prices I saw at $22 a box. A little pricey for ball but worth a try.

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Its a fairly new offering around here, price was less locally than most net prices I saw at $22 a box. A little pricey for ball but worth a try.
That's what I paid....22.99......hopefully next run to LGS they will have Blazer Brass .....usually 19.99 and I've never had issues with it. Don't exactly need match ammo for this thing.....; )

Picking up another one here shortly......for the Boy to have all his own....; )

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