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Old March 11th, 2017, 09:48 AM   #1
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Gentlemen, I've ran across a possible decent find I may have to pull the trigger on in short order this weekend. It's a Springfield 1911-A1 Standard .45ACP, parkerized with dark or black plastic grips, serial # is NM 68xx as marked on box & pistol, it looks like a USGI and almost NIB or at very least mint condition, possibly unfired. Asking price is around $600-700 by the time I'd get my hands on it.

This sounds like an early 4 digit 1980-90's Springfield pistol, I may not have time to call Springfield to have them date it. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this possible purchase? Thanks in advance!

Oh, also, I was hoping this would be a USGI 70 series type trigger as opposed to 80.

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Old March 11th, 2017, 10:13 AM   #2
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My SAI 1911-A1 serial# is NM1188XX and was purchased around 1993. It has 70 series trigger. At the time the NM series frame rails slightly oversize for a better slide fit. Barrels is two piece on my series and has excellent accuracy. Sights are better than the standard GI. Over-all a good buy at the time.

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Springfield doesn't produce 80 series guns, and the "NM" indicates that the finish assembly work was done in the US, it does not mean, contrary to the ignorant, National Match.

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Most likely a Brazilian frame. Or at least the one I had in the mid 1990s was.

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I bought a new SA 1911-A1 GI in 2014 for $550. I don't know how SA assigns serial numbers but by that time it was NM 36xxxx. I don't know anything about how they've been manufactured over the years so I have no idea if there's a difference. It came with checkered walnut grips, checkered black plastic grips, 2 magazines, cleaning rod brush, plastic holster, plastic double magazine pouch. All this came in a blue, fitted, hard plastic case. I thought it was a pretty good deal at the time; still do.

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Most likely a Brazilian frame. Or at least the one I had in the mid 1990s was.
SAI severed there relationship with IMBEL is 2015 so anything made prior will be from Brazil N/WW prefix pistols and maybe another. All the NM/FBI/TGO/CRG prefix defines it was machined and the finishing work was done here in the USA.

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Gentlemen, I've ran across a possible decent find I may have to pull the trigger on in short order this weekend. It's a Springfield 1911-A1 Standard .45ACP, parkerized with dark or black plastic grips, serial # is NM 68xx as marked on box & pistol, it looks like a USGI and almost NIB or at very least mint condition, possibly unfired. Asking price is around $600-700 by the time I'd get my hands on it.

This sounds like an early 4 digit 1980-90's Springfield pistol, I may not have time to call Springfield to have them date it. Does anyone have any experience or thoughts about this possible purchase? Thanks in advance!

Oh, also, I was hoping this would be a USGI 70 series type trigger as opposed to 80.
If its in nice shape and is too your liking wheel and deal like Monty Hall.. If its a blued pistol they don't crop up very often.. The mag should be marked NM45SA on the base plate.

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After searching around on some other 1911 forums, I find that Springfield Inc started making them in 1985, offered both as a kit gun you could build yourself, or as a finished pistol, the NM prefix means it started out (As most all of them did until recently) as a forging from Imbel Brazil, then final milling, finish, assembly was done by SA. This particular pistol I'm interested in coming with it's original blue/white cardboard box showing the build style looks to be one of their finished products, and near as I can tell, it's NM 685x serial places it around the first few years of manufacture in 1985-87.

So does that make it more worth a $600-700 asking price? Or is this early 4 digit just cool but a little expensive?

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Though mine is apparently newer with a S/N WW 103XXX...it is clearly marked on the right side of the frame above the S/N "Made In Brazil-Imbel." Mine has been a steady and very reliable shooter of 230gr hardball (it's intended use as a "shooter") for about 1K rounds now. It's been the closest thing I've found to the old Colt 70 Series full spur handgun in feel, accuracy and trigger. For a standard plain Jane, original style "Government Model" that I had wanted and neglected to buy for so long...it has been and will be a keeper for me. In my experience so far...it shoots almost as well as my Springer 1911A-1 Loaded and for a considerably cheaper price. I also love how the parkerized finish has now taken a dull, dark "sheen" with a steady diet of hand rubbed oil to the exterior over the years.

Your find might seem a tad high in price but as always...condition and desirability might make it just what a buyer wants. Try dealing with the seller a bit because the weapon is not exactly a "collectable" in the 1911 world at present but is genuinely a good weapon. You don't know 'till ya try...LOL

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I have a newer model Brazilian 1911a1 although I changed the hammer, grip safety and rear sight it has been reliable and more accurate than it was designed to be. I got it second hand, someone tried to upgrade it and ruined the finish I just cerakoted it black and put cheap black hogue grips on it.
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And then stood on your head to take the picture? LOL!

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I'm not good at that, when I click on it, it turns right side up. I change the pic and now it right sorry. Took both pics the same way one is upside down the other isn't?

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I have a SF 1911A1 Milspec that I bought from a friend of mine in the mid 90's, it's serial # is in the N310,0XX range. I changed the rear sight out, put a long aluminum trigger in it and a drop in sear and disconnector and cut the frame for a beaver tail grip safety and changed the hammer. this was the first 1911 I ever worked on myself, I have a Essex frame and a Para Ord slide I am working off and on right now as my next project.

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That's about what you could expect to pay for a new pistol. IMHO, the newer guns are better than the older ones. The newer modes come with the one piece stainless barre. That being said, my favorite pistol started life as a SAI WW and has MADE IN BRAZIL electo penciled into the bottom of the dust cover. It doesn't change the fact that it always finds its way into my range bag. I wish I could say the same thing about Brazilian women! She wears a set of Colt wood grips now and sports a nighthawk solid long stainless trigger.
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Here are a couple NM frame guns. One worked over by Nighthawk and the other by SACS.


I bought all three used for under $500. I believe the NM models were $625 new at the time and the WW was $450-500. In the grand scheme of things, $100 more wouldn't be a big deal if you are happy with the purchase.

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Old March 13th, 2017, 05:33 AM   #15
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I had to pass on that deal, seller was too proud of it and was going to cost me $650 by the time I was done with shipping & transfer. Too rich for my tastes and no worries, as I already have a Springfield Loaded & Colt Combat Commander.

Still, would like to own a USGI model or the real thing...

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