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Old March 10th, 2017, 07:01 AM   #1
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Auto Ordnance/Kahr Model 1911A1 US Army:first impressions

I picked up my 2016 made, AO 1911 yesterday, field stripped and lubed it. I really like the flat black finish and hope it holds up. The grips stink, as does the trigger. The trigger has some slack, then 2 very definite stages with a very gritty feel. The fit is tight, and the action is smooth. I put the grips from my Loaded on it, but may go with the Magpul grips. Anybody try them? An American made GI 1911 for $450.
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I had been hoping to get a real USGI 1911A1, but, not likely to happen at today's prices. I was looking at the AO to fill my itch for a GI model.

My understanding is the 80 style safety setup accounts for the trigger stiffness, it may loosen up after some shooting, or disassemble clean & check for any rough spots...

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I had been hoping to get a real USGI 1911A1, but, not likely to happen at today's prices. I was looking at the AO to fill my itch for a GI model.

My understanding is the 80 style safety setup accounts for the trigger stiffness, it may loosen up after some shooting, or disassemble clean & check for any rough spots...
Same here. I wanted a beater 1911, and got one with a Davidson's Lifetime. I do intend on shooting it some first before I do any altering. I've dry fired it, and the trigger seems to be improving. Will, like on my Ruger SBH, the trigger improve if I push the hammer forward as I fire?

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Can't really advise if that's a good practice or not, I'd just give it a good cleaning and check for any rough edges, then shoot the snot out of it...

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I have been shooting my AO for a little bit now and the trigger has smoothed up just with shooting. Its still quite tight after about 500 rounds, and wont yet function 100 percent if I put a shock buffer in it, but runs fine without it. I really like mine a lot. If you look around you will see my first report on this.

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look here from brownells
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I have been shooting my AO for a little bit now and the trigger has smoothed up just with shooting. Its still quite tight after about 500 rounds, and wont yet function 100 percent if I put a shock buffer in it, but runs fine without it. I really like mine a lot. If you look around you will see my first report on this.
Yep, saw it, and was influenced by your input. Thanks.

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Those parts would help the trigger pull but wouldn't look right on this pistol. These parts work great and look correct for a military pistol:https://shop.harrisoncustom.com/hd-1...o-ignition-set

I have this ignition set in my 1911 and recommend them highly!

Get a trigger track stone to clean up the frame to help a little more.

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Just ordered one of these today (BKO Model) for my kid. The 1911's I have are not exactly like my Father, Uncles and Brother carried in the Army, or which I carried in the Navy.... that's what he wanted. This is the closest on the market that's affordable. Didn't need a collectable Rand, Ithaca, Singer or Colt....; )

It will only be for plinking, and shooting the old Navy Pistol Ribbon Qual and Watch Stander Qual. Not changing a thing on it as my issued 1911's were identical, plastic grips, crappy trigger, sights and all......

For those who have the newer (Kahr) Auto-Ordnance, is there any indication who made the magazine? I suspect Metal Form?....I need 5 more as the pistol only comes with 1.

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Others have stated the issue mag is marginal. The one that came with mine seemed fine at first, then I had some issues, not sure if they were mag related but tried some GI types that I got somewhere and they seem to be more reliable. I believe the issue mags can be had from the Kahr site.. Mine is marked with the KMT logo and made in USA. I read somewhere it may be made by CMI. There is a pic of my mag on my review thread of this pistol.

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That figures , I was just looking for a truck door gun
Your US pistol was 29.00 cheaper than this Phillipine RIA I bought last week
The cheapest 1911 I found new was north of 750 I didn't know these were out there
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glock makes a nice 45 also

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I just put the Williams Fire Sights carry type on mine.

https://williamsgunsight.com/product/colt-government/

I did it myself with a pair of vice grips, some red Loctite, Dremmel, file and a punch. The AO 1911 has a narrow tenon hole, so the sight base has to be filed narrower. I also cut a groove across the sight base with a Dremmel cutting disc so I could spread the tenon easier. I'm waiting for the Loctite to set up now.

The trigger has gotten better with a lot of dry fire, and some cleaning. I need to polish up the internals, and I have a set of Wilson pins for my last alteration. I'll have about $500 total into it.
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How is the AO running for you? I like mine a lot.

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I have been shooting a 1911 in competition for years. Always buy a base model and trick it as much as the rules will allow. That's the beauty of the 1911. If you're looking for a wide selection of pistol grips for the 1911 try VZgrips.com.

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