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Old March 24th, 2017, 04:13 PM   #16
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Old March 25th, 2017, 11:58 AM   #17
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My stamped/welded P226 has broken 2 sets of breech block roll pins FWIW. Only noticed because they were backing out. Not sure if this is a related issue to the new ones or not.
I have three questions about your experience.
1. Were the seams in the pins 180 degrees apart?
2. If re-used, were they tight in the slide?
3. Did they shear between the slide and the breech block?

In the folded slides, the pins secure the breech block in addition to halting forward momentum of the firing pin, so much more pressure. On the milled slides all they do is halt the forward momentum of the firing pin.

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Old April 7th, 2017, 02:26 PM   #18
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SIG started with a 2-piece roll pin and switched to a much more expensive solid pin with an enlarged, splined head on the left side. They wouldn't have switched to a more expensive pin if there wasn't a problem with the roll pin. There were issues with the center price of the 2-piece roll pin breaking and/or walking out under use, I do believe.

Years later, they switched from the more expensive solid pin to a snail pin, which is not the same as a roll pin. A snail pin (there are other names for it as well) is of one-piece construction.......it's just coiled up around itself. In most applications, it's a good, solid piece. Works just fine, and cheaper than the solid pin with the splined head.

In my agency, all the replacing is being done at HQ-level, using SIG factory Armorer's that they are sending over just to do this work. They're keeping it as quiet as possible and not saying much about it. Personally, in my office we have not seen an issue with the firing pin positioning pin, AFAIK. There is more than one possible issue with the snail type pin, amongst them:
1. breaking
2. walking out due to size fluctuation
3. springs catching on a sharp edge of the pin and causing misfires

Again, I have not personally seen any of these issues, but other LE Armorers that I know have reported it and SIG is going through a lot of trouble to replace the pins with the older, solid pin

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Sig is always trying these days to cut corners. The Legion series in 229 the finish chips and mars. The older Sigs were great. Yes, I own quite a few Sigs. This hurts me to see it happen to a great company.

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Sig is always trying these days to cut corners. The Legion series in 229 the finish chips and mars. The older Sigs were great. Yes, I own quite a few Sigs. This hurts me to see it happen to a great company.
Every gunmaker has their ups and downs. I'm a big SIG fan as well, but I've seen other issues crop up over the years. Recoil springs for a while, then sear pins, then extractors. They were always good about fixing it, but I'd prefer not to have an issue in the first place! LOL

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