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This is a discussion on Problems at Colt's Manufacturing within the Handguns forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Originally Posted by m14brian Yes, Sir. As soon as we shoot for pinks and I take your Colt! m14brian It's the Indian, not the arrow. ...


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Old March 7th, 2017, 07:21 PM   #46
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Yes, Sir. As soon as we shoot for pinks and I take your Colt!
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It's the Indian, not the arrow. :)

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It's the Indian, not the arrow. :)
True and you might be able to outshoot me, let's do ransom rests!
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I'll just go away until Hgunner chimes in about Baers vs. Colt. And I would concede a higher Wilson is better than mine, hopefully someday I will have one of those.
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"I can tell you my Colt Series 70 made around 2010 shoots every bit as well as my Les Baer bought in 2005."

Ditto similar experiences for me - my Series 70 shoots fantastic, looking for some improved sights for it. Currently resurrecting an old Series 80 with collet bushing & doing modest accuracy enhancements, it has a better grip, I believe it will be as good or better. Going to convert it with a shim to take out the firing pin blocking mechanism.

As stated Colt in Conn. is not structured for success - labor, management, business plan, market, the whole shebang. To be successful and make a profit, you have to be flexible to meet a market, you have to have quality that stands up to the competition or have no competition.

If you're smart you can make a market or a niche, be a leader in the field. Colt lost the high ground, they lost the field to be a leader in. Once that ground was ceded, with the non competitive structure they were in, just a matter of time (yes especially with no Uncle Sam to pay bills).

Sometimes a company has to "die" and be reborn to be saved. Personally, I like South Dakota, Missouri, Utah, or Idaho, but I have a western bias, the South works good too. Also, given recent events, Wisconsin may be place to consider.

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I'll just go away until Hgunner chimes in about Baers vs. Colt. And I would concede a higher Wilson is better than mine, hopefully someday I will have one of those.
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I guess there is a 'caste' system with the 1911s now.

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If it were so easy to run a gun company, we would all own gun companies.

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I guess there is a 'caste' system with the 1911s now.
I don't know about that and I got an A in religions of the world in college. However there are options/package/quality levels within the same manufacturer.
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I don't know about that and I got an A in religions of the world in college. However there are options/package/quality levels within the same manufacturer.
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Sounded funny conceding to a higher Wilson etc. Religion came to mind. Maybe each brand is like a sect within the 1911.

I thought it was funny when some one ragged on the Kimbers in the midst of the fawning over 1911s in the Glock motto thread too.

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I actually prefer a more loose fitted 1911. Thats how they used to be. So you could crawl through the mud and slop and still shoot the darn thing. Get a flake of dust in a tight 1911 and it might seize up. Lol. I'm with trbon8r on this one, you could take a Colt Competition or any other base Colt. Give it the tactical package and it would be right there with some $2000+ 1911s. Cheaper too. $850 for Colt Competition and I believe $850 for tactical package. I'll shoot for pinks. My Colt Rail Gun is an absolute tack driver. Right out the box.

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I'll shoot for pinks. My Colt Rail Gun is an absolute tack driver. Right out the box.
Can your Colt "out of the box" equal the accuracy qualifiers my Pro had to meet, 3 sets of 10 shot groups, no 10 shot group bigger than 1.5" at 25 yards? Then 20,000 round endurance test, then 3 more sets of 10 shot groups with no more that 15% degradation in accuracy?
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I thought it was funny when some one ragged on the Kimbers in the midst of the fawning over 1911s in the Glock motto thread too.
Kimbers deserve to be ragged on, all fancy magazine ads and no go.

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Kimbers deserve to be ragged on, all fancy magazine ads and no go.
Mine's ok. Very accurate but it didn't come without issues. The inside of the barrel was scratched so they fixed that. I have one of there 8 round mags that wasn't very reliable. But I doubt my experience is very remarkable for this type of pistol.

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Mine's ok. Very accurate but it didn't come without issues. The inside of the barrel was scratched so they fixed that. I have one of there 8 round mags that wasn't very reliable. But I doubt my experience is very remarkable for this type of pistol.
Well its not remarkable as far as Kimbers go.

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I saw several comparisons to Colts vs Uberti single actions, with the Uberti fans claiming they are a better gun. Not so in my opinion. Is Colt as good as it once was, probably not, what is? Uberti guns are probably better now than they have ever been and I own and have owned more than a few. But for longevity, a new made Colt SAA will out last a Uberti without a doubt, as Uberti parts are often soft and start having timing issues, the Colt wont do that. I once had a 3rd Gen .44 Special Colt and did my level best to destroy it with Keith loads, the only thing that had to be replaced was the base pin plunger which got all hammered from recoil, MY FAULT! I have owned a couple of recent Uberti single actions that started having timing issues after only a few hundred cowboy type loads. I had for a while a Colt SS Commander .45 that was excellent in all respects. I currently have an Enhanced 1911 .38 Super and its as good a pistol as I have owned, has never had a FTF of any kind. I also have two SAA, one in .44-40 and one NF .44 Special both late 3rd Gen guns, I worry not at all about either of them. Both are gorgeous, reliable and accurate. I will be very sorry if Colt fails. I am seriously thinking about either a Rail Gun or CQC M45A1 pistol before they are all gone and Colt out of business. And no I don't own Colt stock.

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I love my Colt M45A1. 531 rounds down range so far with no malfunctions what so ever.

Very smooth, crisp trigger with no creep. It's very accurate. I plan to shoot some steel challenge matches with it.

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