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Old February 16th, 2017, 07:52 AM   #16
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I have no dog in this fight... This guy has been around for quite a while...

If your really serious about being a "builder:..

http://www.rodgerspistolsmithing.com/1911class.html

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Those have been great to follow along with on 1911forum but I'm dead certain Bob Rodgers and me just wouldn't see eye-to-eye on just about anything.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 08:14 AM   #17
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I hear you loud and clear as to the negatives of building one "from scratch," but not my plan, just searching for the best source of parts of high quality and have a builder in my area, actually 3-4 to do the actual assembly/fitting, etc. I'll give Brownell's a call and see if they will provide a "bill of materials" for a 1911 and go from there. Do appreciate your response and guiding me away from a disaster project. I need a lot of guidance these days.

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I hear you loud and clear as to the negatives of building one "from scratch," but not my plan, just searching for the best source of parts of high quality and have a builder in my area, actually 3-4 to do the actual assembly/fitting, etc. I'll give Brownell's a call and see if they will provide a "bill of materials" for a 1911 and go from there. Do appreciate your response and guiding me away from a disaster project. I need a lot of guidance these days.
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Old February 16th, 2017, 08:25 AM   #19
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Brownell's has a complete listing of all parts that they carry you can get just by calling. Good people to work with. The only problem is they have several different listings for each part depending upon who makes it. There are 4-5 different barrels.etc.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 08:29 AM   #20
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http://www.cylinder-slide.com/index....ay&ref=classes

Heard quite alot of good comments, referrals on Bill Laughridge's classes. You build your pistol is the classes he puts on.
This place has everything you need, they also build them so the person on the phone will be knowledgable.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 08:31 AM   #21
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Back in the day,
Wayyyy back in the 1980s to 1990s,
I was a Canadian licensed gunsmith, specializing in 1911 Govt model pistols.

I have personally owned over 100 of these type if pistols, worked on a couple hundred more for paying customers, and built dozens of these pistols up from the proverbial piles of brand new parts ( mostly RANDALL S/S parts available after Randall went under). I also refurbished dozens of US GI SURPLUS pistols that were FUGLY
aka "stored in the bilges of ships", available as complete "fixer uppers", for $50 Canuck each.,

And I turned them ALL into functional and RELIABLE shooters.

Some of these were even "target" accurate, and some were even "pretty".

I shot these pistols competitively in IPSC for over a decade, made it to B Class shooting a Detonics Combat Master, and shot the CANADIAN IPSC Championships as a member of the BC Provincial team, using a PARA Ordnance that I built from that proverbial pile of parts. I also designed and built one of the very first Canadian comp guns on the West coast, using my own comp design.

So I know a teensy tiny bit about the 1911 model pistols.

I know enough to STRONGLY recommend that you start with a basic, functional pistol as your foundation, and modify it, ONE STEP AT A TIME, to end up where you want to go.

A PROPERLY modified 1911 Govt midel pistol can be one of the most reliable machines known to man.
eg after I quit competituve shooting, I sold my Randall S/S match gun, with about 20,000 rounds through it, and that pistol was still reliable and more acchrate than most shooters could hold.

Note the words "PROPERLY modified".
An improperly modified 1911 can be a POS of great odifferousness.
BTDT

These days, due to arthritis in my hands, I own zero pistols.
But if I was to buy another pistol,
TO SHOOT,
out of the box,
It would be a Glock.

If I wanted a PROJECT,
I would buy an inexpensive ( < $ 400 Canuck bucks ) NORINCO COMMANDER, with excellent FORGED STEEL frame and slide, which would probably be totally usable with just some decent magazines. But, being as I can never seem to leave a Govt model pistol as is, I would then throw away most of the other original Chibese parts, install a CONED S/S barrel ( still.have one of these left ) and build a duplicate of my last two such custom Commander builds. Cost ended up around $1000 Canuck each, but they were nice.

These are my personal opininions,
Based on my personal experience.
YPMMV

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Old February 16th, 2017, 10:22 AM   #22
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Larry Vickers has a 1911 gunsmithing class where you build a 1911 from a box full of oversized parts but it aint cheap.

http://www.vickerstactical.com/class-specific-info.html

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I hear you loud and clear as to the negatives of building one "from scratch," but not my plan, just searching for the best source of parts of high quality and have a builder in my area, actually 3-4 to do the actual assembly/fitting, etc. I'll give Brownell's a call and see if they will provide a "bill of materials" for a 1911 and go from there. Do appreciate your response and guiding me away from a disaster project. I need a lot of guidance these days.
Brownell's has a separate 1911 catalog just give them a call and they will send it for free. There is all kinds of dreamy parts and prices that will make your head spin..... That's where I would start. A good starter 1911 too build on is the current generation SAI mil-spec, a even better starter pistol too build on is a well used SAI mil-spec.



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Brownell's has a complete listing of all parts that they carry you can get just by calling. Good people to work with. The only problem is they have several different listings for each part depending upon who makes it. There are 4-5 different barrels.etc.
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This place has everything you need, they also build them so the person on the phone will be knowledgable.
No they as in Brownell's doesn't built 1911's, but there employees that are shooters do.

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I was referring to cylinder and slide. The bread and butter of their business is the 1911. That's why I put Dennis's quote in my post it has their link.

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I hear you loud and clear as to the negatives of building one "from scratch," but not my plan, just searching for the best source of parts of high quality and have a builder in my area, actually 3-4 to do the actual assembly/fitting, etc. I'll give Brownell's a call and see if they will provide a "bill of materials" for a 1911 and go from there. Do appreciate your response and guiding me away from a disaster project. I need a lot of guidance these days.
Have you discussed your plans with any of these folks? Chances are they have a list of "preferred parts" that they like to work with. That would be a good place to start.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 04:34 PM   #26
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Wilson upper tier parts are great, but I really like Cylinder & Slide parts. In my experience, and I do have some.....go with Cylinder & Slide whenever possible, you know quality when you see parts that have a punch mark to test for surface hardness.

If you are a fan of the 1911, then consider getting a Browning Hi Power also, they go hand in hand in my opinion.

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Old February 16th, 2017, 07:08 PM   #27
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Well, this just make all this a little more confusing for the poor SOB OP!

I highly recommend John Harrison, both for his parts and pistol smithing. He is glad to answer questions emailed to him and is helpful as can be. You can find him at https://shop.harrisoncustom.com/aboutus

He has a website of parts he supplies. His parts are not cheap, they are simply the best. This is just what I want in a carry gun. John keeps a gallery of guns he has built. The first thing you'll notice is that they don't have a bunch of BS options hanging off them. John builds shooters, not safe queens. I can't recommend him highly enough!

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