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This is a discussion on New to me Model 19-3 within the Handguns forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Originally Posted by dist1646 Lots of older people used WD-40 to spray their guns down. Problem is that WD-40 leaves a residue that really gums ...


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Old February 15th, 2017, 07:06 AM   #16
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Lots of older people used WD-40 to spray their guns down. Problem is that WD-40 leaves a residue that really gums things up over time. Be sure that the smith you take it to knows what they are doing with those old S&W's so they don't booger things up. Messed up screws and side plate edges are the mark of an amateur. Nice Model 19 you have there. I love those old S&W revolvers.
^^^^this^^^^ wd40 = glue after about 5 years. S&W will not repair it for free if someone has boogered up those screws on the side plate. If you call them they will tell you do not remove that plate. I can see it has a pinned barrel is the cylinder recessed?

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Old February 15th, 2017, 09:53 AM   #17
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Congrats! on a fine gun. Since the gun was caked up it would be reasonable to assume that anywhere there was lube it will also be gummed up. I would disassemble it and remove all former traces of lube and re-oil. Smiths aren't that bad to disassemble/assemble, heck you can probably fine the process on Youtube.
However if you still aren't sure then take it to a quality gunsmith and have him do it.
I checked out a few videos and will probably do it myself. I keep going back and forth on it. I have the tools and skill. However, part of me just wants to let someone else do it to avoid picking up another obsessive tinkering project. Once I look behind the curtain I'm typically hooked and start obsessing over every detail.

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Old February 15th, 2017, 09:54 AM   #18
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^^^^this^^^^ wd40 = glue after about 5 years. S&W will not repair it for free if someone has boogered up those screws on the side plate. If you call them they will tell you do not remove that plate. I can see it has a pinned barrel is the cylinder recessed?
Yes, the cylinder is recessed and it has an extremely wide trigger pad and hammer spur. It's a beautiful gun.

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Old February 15th, 2017, 10:04 AM   #19
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Awesome the pinned and recessed ones are my favorite. If you have the right screw drivers you can do it. Look at a lot of videos and take a picture for reference once you take off that plate. It ain't that bad watch a video on how to check the timing, just for safety its probably perfect. The line in the cylinders appears to be very faint.

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Wow. You can officially label me envious.

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Old February 15th, 2017, 03:49 PM   #21
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Very simple cleaning, remove your grips. Using the correct size screwdriver remove your side plate screws and mark the locations they came from, on a gun that old they will be fitted to length. Using a plastic handle screwdriver or wooden Mallet gently tap the side of the grip frame on the same side as the side plate and after a few light Taps it should pop up. After that everything else is self-explanatory and you do not need more than a drop of Lube on all your pivot and contact points. The only real hard part would be getting the trigger return spring back in, but if you use a good gun scrubbing spray to clean out the interior you can probably get away without removing that particular part. After lubrication reassemble and enjoy.

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Old February 15th, 2017, 06:19 PM   #22
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Congratulations! IMHO, the 19 is one of the finest, best handling revolvers ever produced. Sad to say I currently do not have one. I am a bit jealous, but happy for your good fortune!
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Old February 15th, 2017, 07:34 PM   #23
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I dropped it off with a local smith for a tuneup. The price was worth my time and I didn't want a couple turns of the screw to develop into anything more. I'd rather just appreciate this gun for what it is.

He happened to have a "vintage" police holster on hand that was made for this particular model and I picked it up for $60. Might have overpaid, but I'm in for a penny at this point.

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That's a beautiful gun, they don't make 'em like that anymore.
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Old February 15th, 2017, 09:54 PM   #25
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I have a nice 19-6 2 1/2" round butt that I picked up at a pawn shop for $250 [15 years ago] Man I wish you could get those deals today.
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Old February 15th, 2017, 10:19 PM   #26
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Funny story about a 19. Some years ago my late dad was giving guns away. He called my brother, myself and my boob of a BiL into the back room and there on the bed were
3 guns and he said draw straws for first pick. My brother, not normally a stupid person got first pick. Now on the bed was a Model 19 2.5" Smith, a Charter Arms .38 Sp and an old hacked off Polish 98 Mauser. Big bro says gee I cant decide and gives Mr Boob the BiL next pick as I drew for last. Now the normally stupid BiL's day just got a little brighter as he at least knew which gun was by far the most valuable! I had been trying to get big bro's attention without being rude and was almost screaming "TAKE THE SMITH"! I figured since he already had one I would gladly buy it off him, but noooooo, the BiL go it! I ended up with the Mauser and gave it to a friend of my dads,, sigh.. BiL still has it...
OP has a very nice Model 19!

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A little update...

I've learned enough about these guns over the last week to feel confident tearing it down and did so today. My confidence was bolstered by the fact the side plate edges were already buggered up and there are a few dings on the gun that I'm sure eliminate any serious collector value. The plate is still true and tight. To a keen eye, the screws show use and there are several surfaces that appear to be polished. I'm committed to not making things worse, but it is definitely a shooter and will see a holster.

The inside was a far sight better than the outside. There was some of what I'm assuming is old 3-in-1 turned to lacquer on the trigger return spring, trigger/sear interface and bolt track and a little rust on the hammer spring, but otherwise it is good to go. I degreased everything, oiled the parts and wiped them down. I lightly oiled the contact points and pins, but tried to keep things as dry as possible without sacrificing rust prevention.

My trigger gauge only goes up to eight pounds, but the double action pull is now smooth and consistent. The single action pull is a consistent three pounds on the nose and absolutely beautiful. Speed loaders and some snap caps are on the way and I plan to hit the range on Tuesday morning!

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Old February 25th, 2017, 07:27 PM   #28
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One interesting observation, the barrel pin and the pin holding in the cylinder detent are both marred, as if they were removed and reinstalled at some point. Someone did a good job, but the finish was affected. There is a gouge above the pin on the barrel lug that looks like someone let a tool slip. Any idea what that is all about it why someone would remove the barrel? Is it normal?

The men who would know aren't around to ask. My dad thinks it belonged to an uncle who served as a tanker in WWII. Apparent he took good care of things, but wasn't interested in cosmetics.


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Old February 25th, 2017, 08:54 PM   #29
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Very nice! When I first started in law enforcement I was issued a S&W Mdl 27 N frame Highway Patrolman. Having smallish hands is was a bit too big for me so after I got out of the academy I did a private purchase S&W Mdl 686 L frame which is the N frame cylinder with a K frame grip. Had to carry it for a year and then went with a Sig P220 .45 ACP. Still have the 686.

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Bill Jordans favorite piece!!! Smiths are also easy to work on and tune. Nice piece you picked up. You'll enjoy it. -Lloyd

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