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Old February 7th, 2017, 06:40 PM   #1
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When there's a real "bump in the night"?

This evening, I got a call from the inlaws that live 2 doors down that their house alarm was going off and asked if I'd mind swinging by to scope it out since they were outta town. Sure enough, I walked outside to our driveway and you could hear it all over the neighborhood & that's saying something since we all live on 4 acre lots.

My interesting observation (at least to me anyways) throughout all this was the thought process as to which firearm was going with me....

I didn't want my dedicated, always ready to go AR with illumination, etc because if I had to make a phone call, I'd minimize the rifle's usefulness while dialing. I didn't want my ole faithful 1911 w/tritium sights due to possible mag changes if something went down.
I deliberately grabbed my trusty hi-cap 9mm with night sights and a weapon light (in this case a Sig p226) and felt more than comfortable.

The point of this post is in my opinion, to always have a firearm ready and available (w/ xtra mags and good ammo) that you can trust in. That weapon for me wasn't a fancy this or that, but instead something that I know intimately & I trust
enough to work when I need it most... regardless of caliber, cost, or design.

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Old February 7th, 2017, 06:49 PM   #2
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I read you, Josh. Mine's a PT 1911 with CT and night sights. But you forgot to say what tripped the alarm???

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Old February 7th, 2017, 06:53 PM   #3
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I will do something I do not normally do, I am going to assume. Based on your comment "my dedicated, always ready to go AR" I assume you are fluent in the use of that weapon. If that is the case that is the weapon I would have chosen out of the ones you mentioned and I would not have worried about the phone call at that point. Your survival is priority, the rest can wait. Never bring bring a handgun to a gun fight unless it is all you have.

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Old February 7th, 2017, 07:00 PM   #4
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Good point !
Some can learn from your experience

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Old February 7th, 2017, 07:21 PM   #5
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Most important, I'm glad you are okay!

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Old February 7th, 2017, 07:33 PM   #6
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I think I would have called 911 and asked a patrol to come by and take a walk around. That's what they are there for.

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Old February 7th, 2017, 07:54 PM   #7
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Something you need to consider since you talked about dialing the phone is when the authorities arrived how would they tell you from a perp...Nothing in the house is worth your life. Let the pro's do their job...What do you think they would of thought if you were around the house with the Ar15 out? A bad mistake could of been made and probably not in your favor..

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Old February 7th, 2017, 10:16 PM   #8
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You make good points, especially on weapon choices in regard to time of day. But tell us how your story ends.

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Old February 8th, 2017, 12:05 AM   #9
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I have been in this position many times. I manage a ranch in the middle of nowhere. The owner's house is 4 miles at the end of a dirt road. Their alarm is less sensitive now because I got tired of being called and forced the alarm company to address that issue. We get routine 40 mph wind gusts.

There is no way LE is going to be present in the first 20 minutes of this project. So the very first thing I grab is my brain. In it is what I learned in at least 8 professional training classes over the last 15 years. Then I grab my phone and level IV plates and my Fenix TK61 flashlight modded by V54 (skylumen). The firearms are certainly important but only a part of the equation. M1 super 90 with a Malkov forearm light and a HK USP 9mm compact. Then off to silence the alarm.

I know my road and what it looks like. By the time I get there I have a pretty good idea if someone came in a vehicle. They have already committed a felony to have gotten through the main gate in the first place. I keep binoculars in my truck so about half a mile from the house, I stop and scan. Just sit and decompress for a minute. If I see intruders, I plan on calling in 911 and just staying put. I have picked a narrow spot in the road for the truck to sit and I will command the high ground above it. If I don't see anyone, I clear the house. But there is only one road out, and I don't plan on just letting someone drive off with all our stuff.

Let this be a motivational incident. Get training. Know the laws. Know how to protect yourself. Since you already know where the fight will be, game that out. Do a walk through and preselect your hard cover. Preselect the places where you will never go. And game out how you integrate LE into your equation. You should also know your neighbors and how they will react as well. Hopefully there will be one person who you can trust to form a team to help each other when either one needs support. And if you can't form a bond with someone there, then at least you know you are solo.

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No worries, the scenario went fine. I'm very thorough with how I handle things like that. Not real sure what triggered their alarm but it may have been someone trying to get into garage via a keypad or something. I wasn't looking for a fight but merely swinging by to observe then get closer if there wasn't any sign.

The real point on my post was the psychology/thought process in determining the comfort level and priority list of my weapon at that specific moment in time.

-percepted reliability
-familiarity
-night sights
-ammo capacity
-weapon light capacity
-finally, would it be cumbersome at that time

When you really need to choose, you want the tool that works best with absolute confidence because I'm telling you, there's something primal inside that almost whispers "no range toys apply". It may not be the ones you buddies drool over when they visit but dang it's comforting to have an ole faithful that is dialed in, squared away, and just plain ready.

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I think I would have called 911 and asked a patrol to come by and take a walk around. That's what they are there for.
^^^^ This.

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Old February 8th, 2017, 04:10 AM   #12
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I read you, Josh. Mine's a PT 1911 with CT and night sights. But you forgot to say what tripped the alarm???
Right on, those aren't bad 1911's at all.

Dunno w/ the alarm...

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Old February 8th, 2017, 04:17 AM   #13
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Glad your ok and nothing got stolen, that's all that matters really.

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Old February 8th, 2017, 05:43 AM   #14
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Since your plan was to approach the property would definitely call the police and while doing so give them your location (where you are situated near the property) description of yourself and observe all you can while waiting on the "boys in blue." They deal with such situations on a daily basis and have the full backing of the government in case someone is shot or injured. Most likely you will not have such backing these cases, but a whole lot of "explaining to do."

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Old February 8th, 2017, 07:03 AM   #15
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If you find yourself trying to decide which weapon to take you're over thinking it. If you look at videos of robbers being shot at by whomever, they all haul @ss when the first round is fired. You would probably never get through half a magazine in an ar15. That is if you're not in a complete panic...

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