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Old February 3rd, 2017, 10:16 PM   #1
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Cheaper To Buy ... Pistol Calibers ....

I was getting ready to place an order for my yearly allotment of bullets and did the math ....

It's cheaper to buy common pistol calibers right now than it is to reload! Is anyone else seeing this in their area? I can get Geco and Fiocchi 9mm for 20 cents a piece and 40 S&W for 24 cents a piece!!!

It would cost me 5 cents more to load them!

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Old February 4th, 2017, 03:31 AM   #3
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I havent loaded 9mm or .45 in 3 years. Too cheap just to buy em and I only have a single stage loader so it takes forever to load a enough to go to the range one day.

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Old February 4th, 2017, 05:51 AM   #4
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I have a feeling it may begin to get even more cheap in the near future. Supply has finally got up with demand, and the balance is leading to an oversupply right now.

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Old February 4th, 2017, 06:29 AM   #5
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That's why I haven't loaded 9mm in 20 years... and am having a very hard time justifying 5.56mm when I include my time. I have about 15K spent 5.56mm cases bagged up, ready to resize and all... I won't get rid of it, right? but I just order another case of PMC from TargetSports and reload something else.

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I think a lot of things in our firearm related world are going to get cheaper now.
I'll bet the price on magazines will drop, and firearms in general.
I'm seeing new gun ranges opening up as well. All good signs of a 2A friendly environment coming.
As soon as Ruthy takes a dirt nap it's all going to get good again for alooong time.

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Old February 4th, 2017, 06:45 AM   #7
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Factoring in time you'll never come out ahead in the reloading game, as long as it's a hobby and the cost to you is in components, is where you'll come out ahead. I can still load .223 for about 12cents each but I don't bother to calculate anything else as its the hobby and I enjoy it in and of itself.

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Reloading is many things to many people, most often its the savings that Trumps everything else. I enjoy tailoring ammo to my rifles and finding a accurate round. I load some hunting ammo as well and some of that premium stuff is more than $40.00 for 20 rnds. in that respect it saves some $$$. It takes some time for the large case and projectile manufactures to reduce prices, they usually purchase raw materials on futures. If they expect a increase they can buy ahead of time for this years rate of materials, when metals are declining like they were, they eat it(or we do). I think we are going to see a decline in prices overall, especially if Trump can reel back some of the regs. that choke our manufactures. Sure would be nice to see powder for $14.00 a lb. again and a sleeve of primers for $55.00, doubtful thinking. I remember when my father and I got into reloading in the early '90's and a short time after stocked up on primers that were $62.00 a sleeve bought 2 of every size and set them aside rotated them out when we purchased more. They are nearly a $100.00 more per sleeve now and that is just too much, if and when components do come down I'll do some purchasing, sure need some projectiles. We will see.

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I was getting ready to place an order for my yearly allotment of bullets and did the math ....

It's cheaper to buy common pistol calibers right now than it is to reload! Is anyone else seeing this in their area? I can get Geco and Fiocchi 9mm for 20 cents a piece and 40 S&W for 24 cents a piece!!!

It would cost me 5 cents more to load them!
I haven't bought Ammo in awhile but when I was, I used gunbot.com to get the brand, type and lowest price per round, sometimes Wally World was cheaper in limited quantities. Just sayin, if you don't see it in your area.

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Those with single stage presses...it's cheaper to buy, I understand.
Those with progressives....it's still cheaper to load your own.

14 cents per 9mm cartridge. On a Dillon 650 I can load about 500 in an hour and a half. The extra half hour is testing each round with a case gage and picking up primers. This is not counting the cost of cases because I get em from the indoor shooting range. During the winter the local range has a lot of business...I just ask fellow shooters if I can sweep up their brass.
Until 9mm gets below 11 dollars a box/50. I will continue to build my own.

Steel cased stuff in 223/556 is cheaper to buy regardless (.22cents per). Brass cased stuff in 223/556...it's a wash when you include time to build your own (33cents per). buy or build I say.
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Reloading was never about saving money for me. It's just something I enjoy and it's great therapy. I don't even factor in my time. When I can develop a load that shoots lights out with my bolt rifles that's a great feeling in my book. Taking a nice buck and placing the round exactly where I wanted it is also very gratifying. I still load for my .45 for much less than .30 a round and the cheapest I have seen is about that.

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I was getting ready to place an order for my yearly allotment of bullets and did the math ....

It's cheaper to buy common pistol calibers right now than it is to reload! Is anyone else seeing this in their area? I can get Geco and Fiocchi 9mm for 20 cents a piece and 40 S&W for 24 cents a piece!!!

It would cost me 5 cents more to load them!
I believe that you are wrong.
You can shoot quality jacketed 115gr 9mm for as low as.
13.4 Cents per round for the 9mm 115gr FMJ
14.7 Cents per round for the 9mm 125gr JHP
16.0 Cents per round for the .40 165gr JHP
9mm 115gr FMJ bullets are $96.70/1,000 when you purchase 2,000 or more
9mm 125gr JHP bullets are $109.25/1,000 when you purchase 2,000 or more
.40 165gr JHP bullets are $119.20/1,000 when you purchse 2,000 or more
free shipping over 1,000.
Winchester Small Pistol Primers $28.00/1000
Titegroup is $16.95/lb

That's a savings of $53.00/1,000 on the 125gr JHP or $66.00/1,000 on the 115gr FMJ.
The .40 cal 165gr JHP will save you $80,00/1,000

I am using quality components. You can save more using plated bullets.
It's fine saying that you would rather purchase loaded ammo for a little more money but you cannot claim that it costs more to reload unless you are purchasing your brass.
For the record I've only been shooting for 6 years and the only brass I've ever purchased is Lapua and Lake City for my rifles.



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Those with single stage presses...it's cheaper to buy, I understand.
Those with progressives....it's still cheaper to load your own.

14 cents per 9mm cartridge. On a Dillon 650 I can load about 500 in an hour and a half. The extra half hour is testing each round with a case gage and picking up primers. This is not counting the cost of cases because I get em from the indoor shooting range. During the winter the local range has a lot of business...I just ask fellow shooters if I can sweep up their brass.
Until 9mm gets below 11 dollars a box/50. I will continue to build my own.

Steel cased stuff in 223/556 is cheaper to buy regardless (.22cents per). Brass cased stuff in 223/556...it's a wash when you include time to build your own (33cents per). buy or build I say.
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Can you explain how you get to .33 for .223?
I get to 17.6 Cents per round using 25gr of IMR 8208 XBR at 175.95/8lbs and CCI #400 at 28.00/1,000
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...6-and-000-case

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I havent loaded 9mm or .45 in 3 years. Too cheap just to buy em and I only have a single stage loader so it takes forever to load a enough to go to the range one day.
I'm cheap too but where can I find .45 loaded up with 4.0grn VV310 with a 185 Nosler on top without paying threw the nose?

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I'm cheap too but where can I find .45 loaded up with 4.0grn VV310 with a 185 Nosler on top without paying threw the nose?
What are you paying for the 185gr Noslers?
The Zero Brand 185 JHP's go for 130.80/1,000 when you buy 2,000 or more and include free shipping.
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant...Code=ZBJ-45ACP
I am shooting the 230gr JHP's myself. They expand well and maintain their weight.





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