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Old February 4th, 2017, 12:50 PM   #16
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I'm cheap too but where can I find .45 loaded up with 4.0grn VV310 with a 185 Nosler on top without paying threw the nose?
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What are you paying for the 185gr Noslers?
The Zero Brand 185 JHP's go for 130.80/1,000 when you buy 2,000 or more and include free shipping.
http://www.rozedist.com/mm5/merchant...Code=ZBJ-45ACP
I am shooting the 230gr JHP's myself. They expand well and maintain their weight.

I picked up my Noslers from MidSouth Shooters Supply, it was a small bulk deal 1000 and free shipping I don't remember what the price was but it was good enough too give them a whirl. They shoot well and I still have about 200 loaded up, but I've also good things about the Zero bullet.

Just waiting until I have my Kart fitted up before it shoot the last of them.

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Old February 4th, 2017, 02:20 PM   #17
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I would recommend buying, stocking up and shooting factory ammo while it is cheap. Save the brass and put some primers, powder and bullets away for future "dark days". Handload a box or two every now and then just to keep up the skills and determine what loads work the best in your firearm. The current supply market and political scene looks good for the time being but we've all seen massive swings in the electorate and supply market.

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I would recommend buying, stocking up and shooting factory ammo while it is cheap. Save the brass and put some primers, powder and bullets away for future "dark days". Handload a box or two every now and then just to keep up the skills and determine what loads work the best in your firearm. The current supply market and political scene looks good for the time being but we've all seen massive swings in the electorate and supply market.
In Canada .45ACP is selling for over $460/1,000 for steel cased Barnaul junk and $530 for aluminum cased Blazer.
I have never once purchased a single round of pistol ammo.
I invested the money in a fully progressive reloading setup with both a case and bullet feeder.
It paid itself off within a year.

I wouldn't get off my ass to walk to my press 15' away from me to load a box or 2.
I load approximately 750 rounds per hour at a decent pace.
It takes less than 90 minutes to load 1,000 rounds.
When I change calibers to 9mm I step it up to 3,000 to 5,000 rounds in a session.
This way I only need to load each caliber once or twice a year.

5.56 and 7.62 x 51 is a little more tedious since it is done in 2 stages so I only do about 1,000 at a time.

Component prices are dropping and once they drop enough I will invest in more components.I try to keep an adequate supply of brass on hand for every caliber.

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Thumprrr, dont you love those square buckets, we live in a square world and they just fit nicely into it. I've got a buddy that owns a restaurant and they go through a ton of mayo from Sysco foods, comes in these nice square buckets with lids not quite as large as the ones you have pictured. They wash em out and store them for us freeloaders that like buckets, perfect for brass, and stack and store very well. They weigh about 30+lbs. when full of brass, keep that in mind if ya'll are looking for free storage containers.

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Supply has finally got up with demand, and the balance is leading to an oversupply right now.
Words I never thought I would read on the M14Forum !!!

Supply and Demand Economics?

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Can you explain how you get to .33 for .223?
I get to 17.6 Cents per round using 25gr of IMR 8208 XBR at 175.95/8lbs and CCI #400 at 28.00/1,000
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...6-and-000-case
SGammo.com has brass cased ammo for .33 cents a round. I should have explained that better sorry bout that.
I load 223 for about .18 cents per.
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I'm cheap too but where can I find .45 loaded up with 4.0grn VV310 with a 185 Nosler on top without paying threw the nose?
I don't know about 185 gr. Nosler, but the 230 gr. is cheap enough. Geco uses Vihtavuori powders. Well, it's "Reload Swiss" brand powder, but it converts accordingly to Vihtavuori burn rates. Kind of how Reloder 22 is the same as Norma MRP ....

Here is 32 cents a round for 45 ACP / 230 gr.

http://www.targetsportsusa.com/geco-...50-p-3246.aspx


As for the 'supply and demand economics'. Talked to my local gun shop a.k.a. Whittaker Guns, and Derek said to hold off for another month or so before buying any more. He said that factories will start running more and more 'Factory Special' deals, as I can attest to this. I recently purchased a NEW Sig 226 on 'Factory Special' for $500 and a Sig 938 for $520 fully 'kitted' out with green Viridian Laser and 3 mags. Ammo is expected to fall in line with lower firearms prices.

Also ... the NEW M&P 2.0 pistols are $429 and Springfield XDm are the same. This is due to overproduction.

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