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Old December 29th, 2016, 07:34 AM   #16
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The SA Loaded Series deserves consideration. You get a custom gun at a good price, and you don't pay extra bucks for the name. Mostly made in USA with the newer guns, I think. Don't get an older one from Brazil, or wherever they used to make them. Good guarantee, too.

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Old December 29th, 2016, 10:31 AM   #17
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The SA Loaded series or the Range Officer series gives you a lot of extras for the same money.
I have three Kimbers that I run hard in competition and I have never had any trouble out of them from the day I took them out of the box. Deals can be had on Kimbers too.

I got this two tone off Gunbroker for $660 including shipping and my FFL's fee. It has been a good gun and ran fine from day one.


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"What I've figured out so far, from handling different models at my LGS, is that I'm leaning towards a full size frame and one with ambi controls (I'm left handed)."

Not for nothin', but unless you are left-eye dominant, try shooting your 1911 with your right hand (as it was built to do) for awhile. That's what I did and found that I could shoot about the same groups either way (all bad). Now I carry and shoot mine right handed.
Unfortunately, I'm left-eye dominant so shooting iron sights right-handed never works out very well for me. I can shoot a rifle right handed as long as it has a red dot or long eye relief scope attached and I keep both eyes open

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Old December 29th, 2016, 12:51 PM   #19
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What is your Budget?

Personally I wouldn't even consider a Kimber.
Their build quality is just so hit and miss, also they
use a lot MIM parts and are over priced.
You pay for that Glossy advertising not for a good quality product.


S&W and Sigs have external extractors, they are 1911 look a likes, not true 1911s. Of course you have the if its not a Colt its a copy crowd too...

Buy once Cry once, then look at Les Baer as a minimum (personal favorite),you can contact Crazy John at 1911 Heaven for a good price.

From there Ed Brown, Guncrafters Industries (personal favorite Crazy John also sells these) Nighthawk, Wilson or a independent smith built gun.

I have heard Dan Wessons are good and they get good reviews but I have no personal experience with them.

On the lower end I'd stick with Springfield Armory or Colt.
But there is still the chance you will be crying.
Colt has done better of late quality wise but there was a
time when it was absolutely terrible.
Also on their more expensive offering they don't offer
what should be standard features, like Front Strap checkering.

Also consider the options you want.
Checkered Front Strap (is a must for me).
Ambi- Safety
Style of Grip Safety and fit.
Rail? Personally I have no use for them on a 1911, makes it front heavy and throws the balance off.
Flush cut and crowned barrel?
Flush cut slide stop?
Adjustable sights.
Night Sights.

I would also take a look at the 1911Addicts site, it caters to more of the custom 1911 crowd. Sometimes there are some great deals to had with people selling high end 1911s if you don't mind used.
In terms of budget, I'm keeping my options open for the moment. This is going to most likely be the only 1911 that I buy so I'm willing to put out a little extra money to make sure that I'm getting a good quality gun that's going to last. I don't think that I need a "super" custom gun but I'd like something that I'm not going to have to dump more money into in order to upgrade any parts.

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A Pony on the slide!!
What about:

Ithaca?

Remington Rand?

North American Arms?

Remington UMC?

Singer?

Springfield Arsenal?

Union Switch & Signal?

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Old December 29th, 2016, 12:57 PM   #21
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Thanks for all of the advice and suggestions - I appreciate it

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I have a norinco with 80+ thousand rounds thru it, maybe 50 malfs so far mostly due to ammo. I've been meaning to rebuild it but it keeps chugging away.......

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If looks are a priority too you and your budget allows Colt is the way too go. If your a shooter and plan too enjoy your 1911 Springfield is the way too go.

I've dabbled with 1911's off and on for 25+ years but If your a handy gent, finding a good builder pistol is a good way too learn what is what and what you want with a 1911. I have a long term project that I'm still building on. It is my Jack of all Trades do everything 1911. Deals are still out there too be had on quality 1911's just keep your eyes open.

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Old December 29th, 2016, 03:31 PM   #24
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The Marine Corps selected M45A1 CQBP has the series 80 trigger block. So I'm guessing it's OK.

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Old December 29th, 2016, 03:52 PM   #25
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I've decided that I want to buy a 1911 and I'll freely admit that I'm a bit overwhelmed by the available options. I'm hoping that guys with more experience with them can give me some advice in terms of what I should look for (and look out for) in terms of quality?

What I've figured out so far, from handling different models at my LGS, is that I'm leaning towards a full size frame and one with ambi controls (I'm left handed). I haven't set a price range for myself yet, but I'm thinking along the lines of "buy once, cry once" for a reliable gun.

Out of the 4-5 models that I looked at, the Sig TACOPS and the Colt Marine both felt the most comfortable in my hand. The biggest difference that I noticed between these two is that the Colt trigger had a little more take-up than the Sig did. Other than that, they both felt very comfortable in my hand.

Any advice is greatly appreciated in terms of what I should be looking at in terms of build quality/reliability is greatly appreciated
I was in the same boat as you about 2 years ago. I wanted a full size 1911 at entry level price that would let me shoot EIC matches if I wanted. I ended up with a Springfield Range Officer that I am very happy with. I shopped carefully on line and purchased a new in box unit for well under MSRP.

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Medved11, I have some bad news for you. No matter which 1911 you purchase you will end up spending more money to change something on it. It's part of the ownership of a 1911 to make it more individual to yourself. You will enjoy this even if it's just a set of grips.

There is an ongoing argument over Series 70 or Series 80 ignition system. The 70 proponents claim you get a better trigger pull. The Series 80 can have an excellent trigger also plus it gives you the extra safety of the firing pin block. If you want a two pound target trigger the 70 may be the better but if you want a four pound street trigger you can't tell the difference. I've been using Series 80's for 27 years without any problems from the firing pin block parts.

I've always owned Colt's. I purchased a new model 10 months ago and it was made better than the 70's and 90's models I owned earlier. Colt's are built to military specs so there is a huge amount of custom parts available for it. Colt's have always held a better resale value from what I've seen.

It is expensive to have Novak dovetails cut into the slide or a beaver tail fitted by a smith. I would suggest buying a 1911 that has Novak sights and a beavertail safety installed by the manufacturer. You will save money. Any other parts you wish to change may be do it yourself if you're willing to study and have patience with a file.

I hope this helps you!

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If looks are a priority too you and your budget allows Colt is the way too go. If your a shooter and plan too enjoy your 1911 Springfield is the way too go.



I've dabbled with 1911's off and on for 25+ years but If your a handy gent, finding a good builder pistol is a good way too learn what is what and what you want with a 1911. I have a long term project that I'm still building on. It is my Jack of all Trades do everything 1911. Deals are still out there too be had on quality 1911's just keep your eyes open.


Thanks - I'd be lying if I didn't admit that the Colt Marine didn't make me actually let out an audible "whoa!" when I saw it just based on the cerakote job. I'm probably overthinking this a little too much but part of me feels a little hesitant about that one since I'm not a Marine and I wouldn't want to make it seem like I was trying to be in any way.




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Medved11, I have some bad news for you. No matter which 1911 you purchase you will end up spending more money to change something on it. It's part of the ownership of a 1911 to make it more individual to yourself. You will enjoy this even if it's just a set of grips.



There is an ongoing argument over Series 70 or Series 80 ignition system. The 70 proponents claim you get a better trigger pull. The Series 80 can have an excellent trigger also plus it gives you the extra safety of the firing pin block. If you want a two pound target trigger the 70 may be the better but if you want a four pound street trigger you can't tell the difference. I've been using Series 80's for 27 years without any problems from the firing pin block parts.



I've always owned Colt's. I purchased a new model 10 months ago and it was made better than the 70's and 90's models I owned earlier. Colt's are built to military specs so there is a huge amount of custom parts available for it. Colt's have always held a better resale value from what I've seen.



It is expensive to have Novak dovetails cut into the slide or a beaver tail fitted by a smith. I would suggest buying a 1911 that has Novak sights and a beavertail safety installed by the manufacturer. You will save money. Any other parts you wish to change may be do it yourself if you're willing to study and have patience with a file.



I hope this helps you!


Thanks - I know that I'm kidding myself if I think that I'm not going to start tinkering with the pistol as soon as I get it. I say that every time I get a new gun and by the next day I'm online ordering parts (I couldn't even leave my Marlin 1895 alone for more than a couple days before I replacing things)

I'm heading to another local shop tomorrow in order check out a few more models. I appreciate all of the advice as it's starting to give me a clearer picture of what I'm looking for


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Thanks - I'd be lying if I didn't admit that the Colt Marine didn't make me actually let out an audible "whoa!" when I saw it just based on the cerakote job. I'm probably overthinking this a little too much but part of me feels a little hesitant about that one since I'm not a Marine and I wouldn't want to make it seem like I was trying to be in any way.




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