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Old March 8th, 2017, 06:04 PM   #1
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Lightbulb In the Market for a Barrel Vise

I finally started setting up my work bench in our new house, and am now in the need for my very own barrel vise. I need a vise that can be used to install standard, medium, and heavy M14 and M1 Garand barrels.

I really would like an Al Story setup, but I can't find one for sale at the moment.

Any ideas???

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Old March 8th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #2
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Midway is showing the Al Story vise.> http://www.midwayusa.com/product/350...rel-vise-steel
I have this one and like it, scroll down to the one that shows the M14/Garand bushings. I bought it with the steel bushings and also bought lead sheet shims for it.
http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-to...prod41623.aspx

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Old March 9th, 2017, 02:50 AM   #3
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Brownell's has worked great for me.


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I have used the Brownell like Art's for the past 20yrs. It works Perfectly, and there are lots of Bushings available.

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I have used the Brownell like Art's for the past 20yrs. It works Perfectly, and there are lots of Bushings available.
Forgot about all the bushings. I stashed away a complete set.

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I went through 3-4 barrel vises before I found one I liked. I ended up with a Pacific vise that is the same design as Al Story's but the Pacific is cast iron and about 100 years old. Al's vise is superior to anything else on the market today.

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Been using the one from Brownells like the above and it works like a champ,and the bushings are aluminum and they make them for a lot of different barrels,pretty reasonable price wise to.

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Brownells user here. No complaints. A small cheater pipe to torque the Allen screws down helps with a bit of talcum powder on the barrel.

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I'm not saying there aren't other barrel vises that won't work, or work well for that matter. I'm just saying they each have some detractors and once you have the chance to use something better you will see the difference. A lot of it depends on how many barrels you plan to install and how much you value your time. Good tools are expensive and usually for good reason.

If you were closer I would let you use this.


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I'm not saying there aren't other barrel vises that won't work, or work well for that matter. I'm just saying they each have some detractors and once you have the chance to use something better you will see the difference. A lot of it depends on how many barrels you plan to install and how much you value your time. Good tools are expensive and usually for good reason.

If you were closer I would let you use this.

I'LL TAKE IT, PM inbound.... Ohhhhh,, this ain't the PX..
Beautiful , would love to see it in action some day.

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I've been using Brownell's vise for over 30 years. The collet they sell for the M1/M14 barrels works fine except for standard barrels. It does work on standard barrels, but doesn't get as much grip as I would prefer. The barrels just don't have enough surface area at their 1.1" diameter. I finally designed and had PT&G make up a collet for the standard barrel. I tried for years to get Brownell's interested in making a standard barrel collet, but they never showed much interest.

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http://smg.photobucket.com/user/gadd...rand2.jpg.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Garand-Barre...p2047675.l2557

this one grabs on the flutes

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I have one the Wheeler vise's that uses oak blocks to hold the barrel, they work ok for bolt guns but would not hold a M14/M1A barrel tight enough. I made a set of aluminum blocks and it held great with a little rosin, I have used it to tighten the barrel on my .50 BMG bolt action to over 200 ft/lbs. with a big enough wrench you can crank it really tight.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/22...-wood-bushings

Like I say the wood blocks are pretty much useless so save them for your smoker and make a set of aluminum blocks.

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I recently bought the Brownell's barrel vise with a M14 bushings for both standard and NM bushings. It works great without having to use too much clamping pressure on NM barrels, but the bushings for the GI contour barrels never held very good and they kept slipping and the smaller bushing gets marred quite easily.

With the Brownell's vise and NM bushings, I use a 24" breaker bar and a hex-head bit to torque the bolts, but not too tight. I've thought about a solution for the GI bushings which would alleviate the need for higher torque and the slippage. I need to just drill a hole in the center of the bushing and into the upper block and press a dowel pin in there so it wouldn't rotate.

For now, I've resorted to my old homemade vise with square blocks which hold GI barrels well without any real toque requirement.

If I could do it again, I'd go with the Story vise or a hydraulic press with blocks.

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Old March 10th, 2017, 04:14 AM   #15
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Tony, no need to over torque your vise. An application of a little resin on surfaces and you can just tighten with the allen wrench. Easy squeezy my friend.





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