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Old January 18th, 2013, 08:19 PM   #1
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M14 NYS SAFE 2013 Compliance

So, thread title says it all. I do not want to register my M14s with NY State, so, I need make this post ban compliant.

It will probably involve turning down the muzzle threads and a set-screw based "ornamental" flash hider, such as LRB sells.

If any of the smiths have ideas of whether this will work. I was hoping that a quick weld over the castle nut set screw would have been sufficient (similar to a blind pin weld on an AR). The only thing they mention is "removing barrel threads". The modification has be be irreversible. The M14 is really not attracting must attention on this (for now), so a set screw weld may work.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. I have an email out to Lou at LRB, but he is probably still at the Shot Show.
Fixing the magazine to the receiver will not be an option as I don't think they are allowing this.

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Old January 18th, 2013, 09:08 PM   #2
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The other option is to turn down the threads and use a gas lock front sight, but that would look really weird.

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Old January 19th, 2013, 06:46 PM   #3
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step #1 gtfo of NY
step #2 enjoy the freedom

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Old January 19th, 2013, 07:39 PM   #4
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Not happening in my house

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Old January 19th, 2013, 08:43 PM   #5
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Just a matter of time,and you'll have to turn it in no matter what you do.

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Old January 20th, 2013, 05:50 PM   #6
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I may buy a getaway house in PA. Masthope. I have a business in NYC, so I'm stuck here a few more years...

I can usually work with this shit, but not turning down muzzle threads. If they left that part of the text as it was before, I could have dealt with it, but not defacing my stuff.

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Old January 27th, 2013, 02:07 PM   #7
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I left Long Island 9 yrs ago after 58 years there. Since moving to FLA, I have been happy as a Pig in you know what. This State respects the 2nd amendment to the letter, and no hoops to jump through. Cuomo thinks he will be the next Democrap President, but I think that he just shot himself in the foot. I told my Son who still resides on Long Island to send his stuff here for safe keeping until he can move out of that Police State and live free again.

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i think the demoncunts have totally shot their collective foot off in the last 4 years for hopes of president in 16

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Old January 27th, 2013, 05:57 PM   #9
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step one......do nothing, keep your guns they way they are.

step two....buy more bullets.

step three......tell the State of NY to GFT.

their stupid laws won't pass muster with the courts anyway....

my opinion.....injunctions forthcoming.

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Old January 27th, 2013, 07:09 PM   #10
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Toki and ABN, I was working on this problem all weekend and may have a decent solution. I initially dismissed the idea of a non detachable mag as I was not going to drill a hole in my walnut stock. Others had mentioned a different way.

How about disabling the mag release? With a mag inserted make a pencil line on the release lever and after removing the lever from the rifle cut on this line so when reassembled the release lever cut off is now flush with the trigger housing.

Now, you could take a screwdriver and push on the stump to release it. So take a piece of metal and create a pad that is attached to the "stump" so you cannot push the mag release stump at all.

The only way to release the mag is remove the trigger assembly so in effect you are disassembling the rifle to remove the mag. This would satisfy the requirement of "Cannot be reversed through reasonable means".

I have a Sadlak scope mount on my Scout and I was able to reload the mag through the breech although with my painful arthritic fingers it wasn't fun but doable. Just need to take a bucketful of Motrin before going to the range, LOL!

I just can't bring myself to desecrate my M1A by filing off threads. I think I will be going this route unless shot down by the Albany Klowns.

Whaddya think?

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Toki and ABN, I was working on this problem all weekend and may have a decent solution. I initially dismissed the idea of a non detachable mag as I was not going to drill a hole in my walnut stock. Others had mentioned a different way.

How about disabling the mag release? With a mag inserted make a pencil line on the release lever and after removing the lever from the rifle cut on this line so when reassembled the release lever cut off is now flush with the trigger housing.

Now, you could take a screwdriver and push on the stump to release it. So take a piece of metal and create a pad that is attached to the "stump" so you cannot push the mag release stump at all.

The only way to release the mag is remove the trigger assembly so in effect you are disassembling the rifle to remove the mag. This would satisfy the requirement of "Cannot be reversed through reasonable means".

I have a Sadlak scope mount on my Scout and I was able to reload the mag through the breech although with my painful arthritic fingers it wasn't fun but doable. Just need to take a bucketful of Motrin before going to the range, LOL!

I just can't bring myself to desecrate my M1A by filing off threads. I think I will be going this route unless shot down by the Albany Klowns.

Whaddya think?
I'm not a big fan of the whole fixed mag thing. Most of my rifles have scopes on them, so they are impossible to load from the top.

Lou actually emailed me back this weekend about my desire to order some ornamental FHs, and he said DO NOT DO ANYTHING YET, wait and see what happens out of Albany...

With regards to "unthreading" a barrel...

Well, you may not have to file, but do the opposite. I was talking to the back room guys at Blackman's Plumbing yesterday, and asked them about covering up pipe threads..

Instead of grinding off threads, you may be able to silver solder OVER them, filling them in, so that down the road you have the barrel re-threaded to the same size. Or just put tack weld a little sleeve over them.

The big "if" here is if that ornamental flash hider is ok and not viewed as a muzzle brake or compensator. Also, I have some comps that I may just consider sleeving over, or putting a sleeve inside of a regular flash hider.

Don't know. I'm not going to worry about it until the end of the year.

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Yeah, I hear ya Toki. And I'm also not doing jack squat yet also. Things are heating up though, gonna get more interesting soon.....

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Guys.....listen to Lou. I was talking to a fellow LE official and he said there is a shibby storm going on higher up. Seems as though some serious problems have been caused by this BS legislation and changes are coming. I don't have specifics.

Just ride the wave for a while and stay in touch with Lou on the subject.

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Thanks for the encouraging thoughts JD. We are just bouncing around some ideas to combat this thing. The thought of doing ANY thing to our babies is just revolting and nauseating.

My hopes and prayers is someone gets a good ass kicking over this and gets kicked out. Even NY Police departments are strongly against this thing.

Peace and shoot straight, WS

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I wouldn't consider getting rid of bbl. thds. but how about carefully welding castle nut to FH? Just before April, 2014 of course!

Some steels start to lose their hardness at about 350* F so is the silver solder over the threads a good idea?

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