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Old January 24th, 2014, 05:21 PM   #1
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New Oklahoma gun law proposed

A state rep has filed a new law that removes the requirement that you have to have a trained instructor teach you how to conceal carry.
It removes all restrictions from the sale possession or carrying of any firearm except for felon's.
In other words there would be no laws restricting your rights concerning a legal weapon.
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Old January 24th, 2014, 05:23 PM   #2
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I know...sounds great, but there is already a law/right. Right?

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Old January 24th, 2014, 05:33 PM   #3
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If you conceal carry without a permit in Oklahoma you are breaking the law.
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Old January 24th, 2014, 07:17 PM   #4
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So basically they are trying to undo a violation of OUR Rights.

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Old January 24th, 2014, 07:53 PM   #5
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I will believe it once the airhead at the governors mason signs it into law. Isn't gonna happen. When Brad Henry left office every republican in the state house and state senate threw every bit of pro gun legislation at him that they could knowing good and well he would veto everyone of them and he did. Well guess what we now have now? A republican in the majority in both houses and the governor and none of those pro gun bills have been brought back up.

Guess what boys? The reps and dems are both the same team. We're the team they play against.

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Old January 24th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #6
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I will believe it once the airhead at the governors mason signs it into law. Isn't gonna happen. When Brad Henry left office every republican in the state house and state senate threw every bit of pro gun legislation at him that they could knowing good and well he would veto everyone of them and he did. Well guess what we now have now? A republican in the majority in both houses and the governor and none of those pro gun bills have been brought back up.

Guess what boys? The reps and dems are both the same team. We're the team they play against.
So are you saying that the Information is incorrect or you don't see it happening because you fail to see the difference between the two parties?

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Old January 25th, 2014, 12:08 AM   #7
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Is this really a good idea -- 18 year old kids carrying guns with no training and the only exclusion is to not be a felon?

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Old January 25th, 2014, 12:24 AM   #8
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Is this really a good idea -- 18 year old kids carrying guns with no training and the only exclusion is to not be a felon?
I would assume the law that requires you to be 21 before owning and purchasing handguns/ammunition would also cause them to be breaking the law if it was in their possession. The only bypass to that law is to carry a written letter signed by biological parents saying who's weapon it is, and why he is carrying it. At least thats how it is in LA

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Old January 25th, 2014, 02:47 AM   #9
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Is this really a good idea -- 18 year old kids carrying guns with no training and the only exclusion is to not be a felon?
This is exactly the point that crossed my mind when I first heard it: 18 year olds can't legally purchase a handgun, or handgun ammunition, so why would they be allowed to legally carry?

The bill sounds good, but is a feel-good measure; the hacks in OKC won't pass it, and the guy who introduced this knows it. For one, there's money to be made on licensing.....they aren't going to throw easy revenue away.

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Old January 25th, 2014, 05:37 AM   #10
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I have taught CCW classes for several years and do not do those on a wholesale basis, but when asked by a group of people I know, church groups, school teachers, professionals, individuals, etc. and from my experience most, not all, do indeed need some very basic information regarding not only handguns but firearms in general. The level of knowledge regarding safety with firearms is at a very low level I have found. All of my classes involve live fire and that is important, but that is not the most important compared to being SAFE with a handgun or any other firearm. As for skill in use of the handgun that is another subject and needs a lot more time than a 1-2 day class. The idea of granting carry permits to folks with no training of any sort seems to me to be a big mistake. I charge a very nominal amount for the classes, enough to cover materials and range rent fee. I am not a fan of conducting auditorium size classes w/ one or two instructors and after passing a True/False test of some dozen or so questions signing their application. In fact I have refused to sign some student's applications for simple reason I do not deem them safe to carry a concealed or open a handgun. I am not the only Certified Instructor in the area and I am sure they can get an application if they shop around enough and by being turned down hopefully they would have woke up and seen the error of their ways.

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I think anyone carrying a firearm should be trained/educated on proper operation AND applicable laws.
The approved mechanism for that?....I've seen excellent peer/parental/spousal training, I have seen negligent 'approved and licensed' instructors.
Can you imagine a Justin Bieber drunk, stoned, angry, armed? and able to claim he didn't know he was doing anything wrong?
Personally, I learned from my father, grandfather, several uncles, military...can't get that from a short session with an 'approved, licensed' instructor.

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Old January 25th, 2014, 06:16 AM   #12
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You mean like Vermont.

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Is this really a good idea -- 18 year old kids carrying guns with no training and the only exclusion is to not be a felon?
Who the Hell are you to decide? I'm surprised at the number of people on this board that don' have their minds right. There isn't much time left either.

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Old January 25th, 2014, 06:22 AM   #13
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There should be a gun range at every golf course.

Nobody requires you to have a government licensed instructor-led class to play golf. Why? Because it's none of their eff'n business.

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Old January 25th, 2014, 07:39 AM   #14
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here in south Dakota 18 yo can go to the sheriffs office fill out the form pay your $10 and depending on your county wait your 3 hours to 2 weeks for your background check and tada you get your laminated business card pistol permit that is good for 5 years.

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