M14 Forum


LEOs in Boston perform illegal searches...

This is a discussion on LEOs in Boston perform illegal searches... within the Gun Rights forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Published on Apr 20, 2013 WATERTOWN, MA — On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent ...


Go Back   M14 Forum > Gun Forum > Gun Rights


Like Tree143Thanks
Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Moderator Tools Display Modes

Old April 21st, 2013, 06:02 PM   #1
Fire Team Leader
 
1985 4runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 180
LEOs in Boston perform illegal searches...

Published on Apr 20, 2013

WATERTOWN, MA — On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people’s homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.


http://westernrifleshooters.wordpres...neuen-amerika/

https://www.facebook.com/PoliceStateUSA



While the sheep in Boston chant "USA!-USA!" afterwards...



Not a PEEP about the Fourth Amendment...

Thoughts?

Thanks from Mike7.62, Bastiat and TheShooter
1985 4runner is offline  
Remove Ads
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:09 PM   #2
Old Salt
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 1,096
Disgusting video. Our founders have to be spinning in their graves so fast that they have drilled a hole across the Atlantic by now.

And cheering the oppression (oppressors?). Shameful. We don't deserve what our previous generations handed us on a silver platter through their hard work and sacrifice.

Take a good, long, hard look America: this is your future. And worse.

Thanks from Beavis1971
cjjtulsa is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:31 PM   #3
Automatic Rifleman
 
Kevin Rohrer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Medina, Ohio USA
Posts: 158

Awards Showcase

Exigent circumstance exception to the 4th Amendment.

Next topic.

Kevin Rohrer is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:37 PM   #4
Fire Team Leader
 
1985 4runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Rohrer View Post
Exigent circumstance exception to the 4th Amendment.

Next topic.


Exigent circumstance

Main article: Exigent circumstance in United States law

There are also "exigent circumstances" exceptions to the warrant requirement. Exigent circumstances arise when the law enforcement officers have reasonable grounds to believe that there is an immediate need to protect their lives, the lives of others, their property, or that of others, the search is not motivated by an intent to arrest and seize evidence, and there is some reasonable basis, to associate an emergency with the area or place to be searched.[70]


[70]^ United States v. Smith, 797 F.2d 836, 840 (10th Cir.1986)

So LEOs decide the need to protect me in my secure home from an imaginary boogeyman?

Got it.

1985 4runner is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:47 PM   #5
Platoon Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: middletown nj
Posts: 324
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 4runner View Post
exigent circumstance

main article: Exigent circumstance in united states law

there are also "exigent circumstances" exceptions to the warrant requirement. Exigent circumstances arise when the law enforcement officers have reasonable grounds to believe that there is an immediate need to protect their lives, the lives of others, their property, or that of others, the search is not motivated by an intent to arrest and seize evidence, and there is some reasonable basis, to associate an emergency with the area or place to be searched.[70]


[70]^ united states v. Smith, 797 f.2d 836, 840 (10th cir.1986)

so leos decide the need to protect me in my secure home from an imaginary boogeyman?

Got it.
+1

Thanks from taxman
RUTGERS95 is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:47 PM   #6
Fire Team Leader
 
1985 4runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 180
Other thoughts:

http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/04/fbi...errorist-hunt/

1985 4runner is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:49 PM   #7
Old Salt
 
CNelson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Land of the free and home of the brave.
Posts: 1,067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Rohrer View Post
Exigent circumstance exception to the 4th Amendment.

Next topic.
You quote "Exigent circumstances". However I don't think that means what you think it means.

It is my understanding that "Exigent circumstances" is based off of probable cause. In that in this case the officers involved must have probable cause to search the domicile. That is in addition to this: that the individual may cause further harm, escape or destroy evidence in the time it takes to obtain a warrant.

An Idea, that a wanted individual is currently located in a neighborhood does not give probable cause to perform a house to house search of said neighborhood.

Probable cause for exigent circumstance, for example would be if during a persuit an armed suspect is either injured by police officers or by his own actions (climbing a fence, breaking thru a window) and enters a domicile. Police would be free to enter the domicile because all pre-requisites of possible further harm to residents of domicile, possible escape, and possible destruction of evidence all would exist.

Otherwise what is to stop the police from using exigent circumstance to enter my home when I'm not there because I'm at work and they have reason to suspect that a prior felon who is currently being sought due to an outstanding warrant resides in the same apartment complex as me, ableit in a completely different building and unit from me?

CNelson is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:55 PM   #8
Old Salt
 
ericscher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Millersport, Ohio
Posts: 1,534
It is good that people behind enemy lines in Libtardia get a taste of this.

Thanks from kmcintosh78 and Mainzer
ericscher is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 06:56 PM   #9
Banned Camp
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ohio
Posts: 3,779
This is what I've been complaining about since Friday. I don't care who or what they are looking for, it does not give them the right to violate people's rights.
So while everyone has been giving the BPD and the Feds pats on the back, I've been scorning them for their rights violations.
It's absolutely disgusting!

slayer6769 is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 07:04 PM   #10
Platoon Sergeant
 
Johnnycat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Tupelo, Mississippi
Posts: 324
One man caused "martial law" to be declared and out went all our rights.

One man - not a mob. Not an out-of-control riot. Not some insurrection. Just one man on the run.

Johnnycat is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 07:17 PM   #11
Master Gunner
 
jebthereb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 936
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnycat View Post
One man caused "martial law" to be declared and out went all our rights.

One man - not a mob. Not an out-of-control riot. Not some insurrection. Just one man on the run.
yeah. exigent curcumstances my ass. I may have come out with my hands up but my thoughts on the subject would be known.

Thanks from tankpondman and Clanjf
jebthereb is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 07:34 PM   #12
Platoon Sergeant
 
Ezekiel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 334
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnnycat View Post
One man caused "martial law" to be declared and out went all our rights. One man - not a mob. Not an out-of-control riot. Not some insurrection. Just one man on the run.
Yes, it sure did. I'm waiting for more news to come out but i dont think it will. Think about it, two novice home grown jerks.....(one of them being dead) shut down nearly the whole city of Boston for a week. Sad but true.

I wonder when the liberal Men in new England are going to start getting monthly nose-bleeds. I bet if this happend in Texas or a pro 2A blue state like west Virginia that this would take hours and not weeks to find them.....dead that is.....and then go out fishing in that boat afterwards.

Ezekiel is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 07:36 PM   #13
Old Salt
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: AR
Posts: 1,305
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericscher View Post
It is good that people behind enemy lines in Libtardia get a taste of this.
They cheered the cops as if they were great heroes. Totally unbelievable that no one resisted when they demanded entrance into homes.

"Move on officer, my home and family are secure."

Clanjf is offline  
Old April 21st, 2013, 07:51 PM   #14
Lifer
 
TheShooter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: United States
Posts: 2,452
My question is what are these cops in the videos going to do the cops who refuse to go along with this BS? Because it sure looks like the good cops are out numbered by .."machines"..

This is just getting everybody use to seeing this. So when Martial law is declared they will just hop on the trains and go to the fema camps.
Benjamin Franklin said it best "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"

TheShooter is online now  
Old April 21st, 2013, 08:04 PM   #15
Banned Camp
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: The road to Benevolence is twisted...
Posts: 5,041
Would those espousing the virtues of our Fourth Amendment still be vocal if law enforcement did not search house to house only to thereafter allow the remaining terrorist free reign in the neighborhood?

I'd bet some people would still lament if the terrorist (albeit unscathed/healthy) had been given free reign within the established perimeter only to thereafter move house to house slaying residents as he moves about.

They had a choice... find the terrorist post-haste or wait until more manpower arrived to set up a perimeter and implement roaming patrols.

There and Back Again is offline  
Closed Thread

  M14 Forum > Gun Forum > Gun Rights



Search tags for this page
boston illegal home searches
,

boston illegal search

,
boston illegal search homes
,

boston illegal searches

,
boston searches illegal
,
illegal boston searches
,

illegal search in boston

,
illegal search of boston homes
,

illegal searches boston

,

illegal searches in boston

,
illegal searches of boston
,
unlawful searches performed in massachusetts
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Moderator Tools
Display Modes


Similar M14 Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Legal in Cal? jmac123 Gun Rights 20 March 28th, 2011 11:25 PM



Top Gun Sites Top Sites List